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[Eaglestrike]

They keep simplifying affliction sub-25% it'll just be drain soul spam at this point, from my understanding

Drain soul will refresh corruption/CoA only, right? Then the Fel-bolt thing increases UA. So under 25% Affliction will be rotation drain soul, fel bolt-thing and haunt. That's not too simple.

[fantasticdan]

It says it refreshes UA as well.

[Ohaigaiz]

Drain soul will refresh corruption/CoA only, right? Then the Fel-bolt thing increases UA. So under 25% Affliction will be rotation drain soul, fel bolt-thing and haunt. That's not too simple.

considering now it's just let drain soul tick a few times > refresh haunt > refresh dots? it's actually the same except replace refresh dots with fel bolt.

[Eaglestrike]

Ah, oh well. I still very much like the new bolt shit thing. I get so annoyed in any movement fight during a bloodlust because all my DoT's fall off if the timing is just a little off.

[fantasticdan]

considering now it's just let drain soul tick a few times > refresh haunt > refresh dots? it's actually the same except replace refresh dots with fel bolt.

With the proposed changes you would only cast haunt and drain soil in execute phase, since drain soul would refresh literally everything else including UA. I guess you would cast fel flame when you have to move just for extra damage sort of like ice lance or something.

[Ohaigaiz]

With the proposed changes you would only cast haunt and drain soil in execute phase, since drain soul would refresh literally everything else including UA. I guess you would cast fel flame when you have to move just for extra damage sort of like ice lance or something.

lol wut? it's going to be a dps increase for sure to keep fel bolt up whenever you refresh your haunt

[Siniroth]

Oops, forgot about Haunt, I tend to forget it exists, it's just that button I hit once every time the cooldown timer is up <_< still, dislike the simplification, I did fine back when we had Siphon Life as an extra spell too, give me back my insane list of dots prz

Edit: You know for sure it'll be a dps increase over just Drain Soul and Haunt? You've seen the damage it will do then? Resistance lowering doesn't do jack shit in PVE, and it hasn't been said to have a DoT portion

[fantasticdan]

lol wut? it's going to be a dps increase for sure to keep fel bolt up whenever you refresh your haunt

I meant as an instant cast DD spell we'll probably be using it while moving for extra damage, especially as affliction in execute phase as you will have zero other instants to cast. And I don't see how it would be a dps increase to use otherwise, as the only other thing it does it does is refresh UA, which drain soul will also do.

Edit: You know for sure it'll be a dps increase over just Drain Soul and Haunt? You've seen the damage it will do then? Resistance lowering doesn't do jack shit in PVE, and it hasn't been said to have a DoT portion

It doesn't lower resists, it is just calculated as the school the target has the lower resistance too, like frostfire bolt. I must be the only person here who can read.

[Siniroth]

It doesn't lower resists, it is just calculated as the school the target has the lower resistance too, like frostfire bolt. I must be the only person here who can read.

While I did miss that bit, you've just claimed you can read when you completely missed the point of that post.

[Ohaigaiz]

Oops, forgot about Haunt, I tend to forget it exists, it's just that button I hit once every time the cooldown timer is up <_< still, dislike the simplification, I did fine back when we had Siphon Life as an extra spell too, give me back my insane list of dots prz

Edit: You know for sure it'll be a dps increase over just Drain Soul and Haunt? You've seen the damage it will do then? Resistance lowering doesn't do jack shit in PVE, and it hasn't been said to have a DoT portion

actually i misread the spell info

[fantasticdan]

While I did miss that bit, you've just claimed you can read when you completely missed the point of that post.

I wasn't answering your question, I was just correcting you.

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An instant cast direct damage spell isn't going to do more damage per gcd than drain soul in execute phase, it would ruin all pve rotations and just be broken for pvp. Try thinking a little.

[Siniroth]

...I know that, that's not what I'm saying, I was sarcastically pointing out that it's impossible to know if it will be a dps upgrade to use during execute phase, if it ends up having a cooldown then it very well might be a dps upgrade, we'll have no way of knowing till we see numbers

[Ohaigaiz]

...I know that, that's not what I'm saying, I was sarcastically pointing out that it's impossible to know if it will be a dps upgrade to use during execute phase, if it ends up having a cooldown then it very well might be a dps upgrade, we'll have no way of knowing till we see numbers

i read it as it refreshed UAs duration, i don't know why. this is why i said it would be a dps upgrade.

[Siniroth]

Fel Flame (level 81): Quick-hitting spell dealing Shadowfire damage. This is similar to the mage ability Frostfire Bolt, in that the lower of the two resistances (in this case shadow and fire) on your target will be used for calculating its damage. Additionally, Fel Flame refreshes the duration of Immolate and Unstable Affliction. Our goal for Fel Flame is to provide a spell that's good for mobility and for use by Destruction and Demonology specs. Also, did we mention it uses green fire? Yep. Instant cast.

It does, but Drain Soul ALSO will refresh UA

[Ohaigaiz]

It does, but Drain Soul ALSO will refresh UA

i'm tired

[Siniroth]

So am I... where are the priest changes? Weren't those supposed to be posted today?

[EternityEnd]

Joke is on all of you. Priest isn't getting any changes. -_-

Edit: Priest changes are underwhelming, to say the least. Life grip? Really? it might be useful if people didn't already train the priest in pvp.

Inner Will will be utterly useless. 2% more movespeed than the already mandatory boot enchant, and miniscule mana reduction on instant casts. Yay...? At least shadow orbs sound aesthetically pleasing. About it.

[Eaglestrike]

Priest is out!

[Gulkeeva]

I can see melee raging over life grip. "Opps accident!"

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I don't like the idea of Life Grip at all. I don't want to be responsible for some retard's death because they can't move out of fire.

The Shadow Priest changes sound cool, nothing as awesome as Healing Rain and moving while casting though.

Hopefully Druid changes will be nicer (i'm expecting something really nice for Balance at least).