Cata Class Previews

[Meresgi]

Lolz @ them taking the Nibel mechanic for the Valk and just tying it to an ability and tossing it at paladins. Must have taken a whoooooole lotta work there.


I'd like to see more classes get abilities that ARNT in the game in the forms of boss abilities.

[Eaglestrike]

Lolz @ them taking the Nibel mechanic for the Valk and just tying it to an ability and tossing it at paladins. Must have taken a whoooooole lotta work there.


I'd like to see more classes get abilities that ARNT in the game in the forms of boss abilities.

Honestly? It makes more sense to take things from boss abilities. Often the bosses are stronger forms of whatever class or class combo than the players are (since you know, it takes 10-25 of us to take one of them down). If you're getting stronger as a particular class you'd mostly just be able to use abilities your superiors in the class use.

It's no different than everyone wanting Naruto to get the Fourths jutsus.

[Dein]

I'm honestly most interested in the Crusader Strike change. Right now it does nothing special and acts like an extra (weaker) melee swing that procs the seal I have active so I really want to see what new talent Retribution will get to change/replace CS.

[fantasticdan]

I can't wait to see the crying when they nerf divine storm like they did whirlwind.

[Dein]

I can't wait to see the crying when they nerf divine storm like they did whirlwind.

I'm expecting that to happen since they're similar skills so I was kinda surprised they didn't mention any changes to Divine Storm in the post. I already feel like Retribution has plenty of AoE damage so if they change Divine Storm to unlimited targets with a base of 50% weapon damage I hope Retribution gains an extra single target oriented skill in exchange.

[Whaleporn]

It's no different than everyone wanting Naruto to get the Fourths jutsus.

A woman in Calcutta takes to one knee in prayer. It is the worlds darkest hour.

"Please naruto. Learn that jutsu."



That aside I'm pumped that healing will be more of a tug of war rather then wack a mole, and the ability to move while casting will be nice for resto shamans.

[Lucavi]

Fuck yeah, I'm all about spamming blinding shit like Earlic the Pure.

"PREPARE YOURSELVES!!" He sounds like such a fine chap.

[fantasticdan]

I'm expecting that to happen since they're similar skills so I was kinda surprised they didn't mention any changes to Divine Storm in the post. I already feel like Retribution has plenty of AoE damage so if they change Divine Storm to unlimited targets with a base of 50% weapon damage I hope Retribution gains an extra single target oriented skill in exchange.

Probably because they didn't have any real ret changes ready, and they didn't want to just post nerfs. They already mentioned holy shock will be a base spell, and prot paladins may want to use it in their single target rotation, so that's a possibility for replacing divine storm, or consecrate, since that will probably pushed out of single target use as well.

[Kenai]

Overall I'm happy, but of course I'll have to really see if it's a tug of war and not just annoying. I know it's gonna be hell at first if I end up having to drink a decent amount of time, especially when 90% of my pugs don't stop pulling, even at low levels

I'd love to see Spirit Walk come with a no-interrupt/silence effect on it, would be great for a lot more fights then. I'm also hoping there might be more of a point to offensive dispelling when I almost never get a chance thanks to spellsteal. I'm probably going to reroll Resto Druid anyway, but more because of the lack of Shaman Worgen than anything else (yes, I will be part of the problem). Tree Form not being permanent basically sealed the deal for me.

[Dein]

Probably because they didn't have any real ret changes ready, and they didn't want to just post nerfs. They already mentioned holy shock will be a base spell, and prot paladins may want to use it in their single target rotation, so that's a possibility for replacing divine storm, or consecrate, since that will probably pushed out of single target use as well.

Well we're presuming that Holy Shock will still have its damage component. If it does then it'll be a great addition to a ret/prot's rotation for single target fights.

[fantasticdan]

Well we're presuming that Holy Shock will still have its damage component.

Why would anyone think Holy Shock is losing it's current functionality yet?

I am talking about wanting Prot paladins to use slightly different rotations against single targets than against groups. The addition of Crusader Strike (and maybe Holy Shock?) alone start to provide that.

[Kenai]

Why would anyone think Holy Shock is losing it's current functionality yet?

You'd be surprised at some of the extrapolations that I've seen in the last few days (not really here), such as:

Healing Hands won't be more powerful than Healing Stream Totem ticks.
Typhoon is an interrupt.
No Bubble Hearth will break Paladin PvP. (I laughed so damn hard at that >.>)
Lifegrip has no use outside of griefing.
Druids are losing Treeform completely.
Spirit Walk has no PvP use.
Diminishing returns on Rogue stuns will not make it out of beta.
Timewarp is OP.


a few various things from mmo-champion and the offical forums in the last...2 hours of recent topics?

[Dein]

Why would anyone think Holy Shock is losing it's current functionality yet?

I feel stupid for having seen that post earlier but not really paying too much attention to what GC said.

[Meresgi]

Honestly? It makes more sense to take things from boss abilities. Often the bosses are stronger forms of whatever class or class combo than the players are (since you know, it takes 10-25 of us to take one of them down). If you're getting stronger as a particular class you'd mostly just be able to use abilities your superiors in the class use.

It's no different than everyone wanting Naruto to get the Fourths jutsus.

Yeah it makes sense, but it would be fun to see new shit every once in a while. I don't really care that i'm a little stronger so now I know how to use super death and decay or something like that.

Look at the shaman HoT rain spell, that's a really cool and interesting spell as I don't think its been in the game in that incarnation.

[sb]

Yeah it makes sense, but it would be fun to see new shit every once in a while. I don't really care that i'm a little stronger so now I know how to use super death and decay or something like that.

Look at the shaman HoT rain spell, that's a really cool and interesting spell as I don't think its been in the game in that incarnation.

Valkyre in ICC spawn trash that cast this.

[Meresgi]

Valkyre in ICC spawn trash that cast this.

Goddamnit, way to ruin it for me!

[seph32]

QQ

Whirlwind nerf is fucked up... reducing it to 50% weapon damage even getting unlimited targets doesn't quite fix it...

[fantasticdan]

QQ

Whirlwind nerf is fucked up... reducing it to 50% weapon damage even getting unlimited targets doesn't quite fix it...

Yeah, single target rotations being different than AoE is so fucked up, it's like fury warriors and ret paladins will have to start looking at their screens now or something.