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  1. #681
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    Surprised no one has suggested selling the Ebody if the DD dont meet the strict requirements of a vbelt, byakkos, cerb+1 and dusk+1 pieces.

    If your DD cant get those items then its better off being sold than being given to LS gimps.

    That'll show 'em.

  2. #682
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Surprised no one has suggested selling the Ebody if the DD dont meet the strict requirements of a vbelt, byakkos, cerb+1 and dusk+1 pieces.

    If your DD cant get those items then its better off being sold than being given to LS gimps.

    That'll show 'em.
    This.

  3. #683
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    If you don't want to give ebodies to people without haidate.. don't fucking accept people without haidate to your shell, k? Jesus christ, and if it's a new job it doesn't matter what order they get shit in since ebodies tend to be streaky and might not see one for a while.

  4. #684
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benevolentone View Post
    Idk Swift is something that is rare to go more than 0/10
    1/17 here

    Anyways, you see this a lot with bought/PL'ed/burned characters that are rushed to endgame after being b& so it is acceptable by bg standards.

  5. #685

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelorn View Post
    1/17 here

    Anyways, you see this a lot with bought/PL'ed/burned characters that are rushed to endgame after being b& so it is acceptable by bg standards.
    0/13 lol, I said fuck it and picked up mage til I get lucky or something. Not really a huge deal, when I get it I'll get it

  6. #686
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    Its funny seeing people complain or saying "idk why a linkshell would give so and so this without having that". Doesn't matter if he was using a Quick Belt. Fact of the matter is he earned it. DEAL WITH IT.

    Also, the real fail isn't the RDM using Cure 1. Its that one dude using Rampage. Unless I missed something. If so, please enlighten me. Thanks, Despain.

  7. #687
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    flash + missed hits? Idk. Sam using tachi enpi is worse. (Cure 1 spam is easily worse than a bad rampage..)

  8. #688
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    I think Despain's going for the using Rampage angle, not the damage dealt by it. I'd rate the Cure 1 as the bigger fail here though.

  9. #689
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelorn View Post
    1/17 here
    1/1 here~

    But seriously, this is why point systems exist. I'd say any system that attaches a long list of requirements to being able to get an item is infinitely worse than one that lets a gimp point-buy a Ridill (or whatever) over someone who can make better use of it but has less points.

  10. #690
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    well idk ... i used rampage for my war from 55-75 >_< didnt even bother skilling up great axe ...

  11. #691
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    most normal parties you get leveling up will probably force you to need /nin anyways so really isn't a big deal using axe as long as you don't suck imo. Especially considering that party was probably lower than 60 so no RR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    If you don't want to give ebodies to people without haidate.. don't fucking accept people without haidate to your shell, k? Jesus christ, and if it's a new job it doesn't matter what order they get shit in since ebodies tend to be streaky and might not see one for a while.
    I just don't understand you guys sometimes. Yes it may be true that he deserved the E body and he is working on swift belt and is having awful luck, I can see that. But normally you guys are all over something like this. Idk it just seems weird to me to have seemingly hypocritical views like this. I have no issue with someone not having a swift and deserving something like an e body based on attendance but that doesn't make his Headlong any less gimp. Fuck Stephano had one and you all fucking flipped your shit at it but now noone seems to care.

    Obviously a point system shouldn't have a list of requirements to obtain an item but how do we know a more deserving melee didn't get an e body and this gimp did? If you are gonna assume he deserved it why can't you also assume he didn't and his LS is retarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    most normal parties you get leveling up will probably force you to need /nin anyways so really isn't a big deal using axe as long as you don't suck imo. Especially considering that party was probably lower than 60 so no RR.
    Also that party is obviously level 70, look at the screenshot. When I first leveled warrior I did it back when dual axes or manny/joyeuse was the only way to go and anything else would get you booted from parties, and it was before the 2 hand update so I used axes the whole time. But now a days there really is no excuse unless you are just skilling up, which you should do out of party anyway.

  13. #693
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    On the swift belt topic, I'm 2:1! On my first char, the guy who was supposed to win it had full inv so it auto dropped to me cuz I forgot to pass lol, and then went 1/1 on my next char HUZZAH

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    Obviously a point system shouldn't have a list of requirements to obtain an item but how do we know a more deserving melee didn't get an e body and this gimp did?
    If it was the result of a point system, then the "more deserving" melee had less points, or something else within the rules let the "less" deserving melee have the item first. Either way, as long as the rules are being followed, the system is working perfectly fairly.

  15. #695
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benevolentone View Post
    Yeah I know that is true but my point is that in the time it takes between getting WAR to 75 getting an E body and getting a Ridill that guy should have been able to get a swift belt at least. Since he hasn't yet to me that means he isn't trying to improve and means he doesn't deserve what he has gotten.
    Surprised no one mentioned Sath getting Kikoku before Swift Belt dropped for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    If it was the result of a point system, then the "more deserving" melee had less points, or something else within the rules let the "less" deserving melee have the item first. Either way, as long as the rules are being followed, the system is working perfectly fairly.
    That is assuming a lot honestly. But I guess it isn't really important so meh.

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    Gimp is gimp

  18. #698
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelorn View Post
    1/17 here

    Anyways, you see this a lot with bought/PL'ed/burned characters that are rushed to endgame after being b& so it is acceptable by bg standards.
    There's a Bravura WAR on Valefor thats like 0/25+ swiftbelt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benevolentone View Post
    Fuck Stephano had one and you all fucking flipped your shit at it but now noone seems to care.
    stephano is a target board ... cause he just whines too much ... and post his so called l33t ws damage on easy mobs ..

  20. #700
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooom View Post
    Surprised no one mentioned Sath getting Kikoku before Swift Belt dropped for him.
    I actually never owned a swift belt on Sath. Koga Sarashi -> Vbelt. I got Swift on Valk then Vbelt like a month later, meh.

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