Random Question Thread IX: Mathology 101

[Kaisha]

It has it's own specific AN-item category from the Sigil NPCs (separate from the other fifth-tier medals) so I'm assuming so.

Would be awesome if it meant not having to keep farming more campaign battles to not lose rank come the eval.

[Kidnoftle]

Or one of any job that can cast bio, can run away while it casts a long ass nuke, and has some kind of refresh (ie. almost any job).

Faith? No.

[Martinius]

re: 5F Zhayolm Remnants Frog.

this is more of an academic question, so didn't want to necro the ZR thread. normally, when getting to the madame, we have our thf flee > run around the gears > group runs to bottom of the stairs > thf 2hrs and /logout or dies at the top of the stairs.

what are some alternate methods of doing this? it would seem there are too many gears to kill them efficiently, but it would be nice to have room for the mages to be out of range of charm. we hobaku and shoulder tackle to the best of our abilities, but sometimes charm goes off anyways or we're too late/no tp. on 2/3/6F, the mages simply kite us and nuke, but there isn't room on 5F with our method.

edit: our group is normally mnk(me), sam, thf, rdm, whm, brd.

thanks!

[Kidnoftle]

Not sure if I understand your question correctly but:

You can dodge the gears in the room if for some reason you feel you need your thf alive for the start of 5f.

As for kiting, you can just have 1 person always stay out of range (I guess the unweakened thf or even weakened can do it) and just kite the group. It's not terribly difficult to do, although, I will admit, pathing on the madame and the charmed cna arrange itself in such a way that you will take a hit.

tl;dr Dodge orig gears and kite by going 'round in circles in the madame room.

[rog]

Faith? No.

Yes.

[Kidnoftle]

Ok, apparently I was totally wrong and zone doting is works.

So there you go. I'm wrong

[Draylo]

Yes.

Sorry but I am gonna have to disagree with that as well.

[Kidnoftle]

Disregard.

[Radec]

1. What is the base damage for determining weapon rank on Magian weapons that have additional damage?!

Athame D18+13 is a rank3, not a rank2, so it raises weapon rank there at least - I'd assume it's the same on all magian weapons.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showp...&postcount=667

Edit:

Anyone know if the Medal of Altana gives any new benefits over other medals other than access to particular ops and access to new AN items? Heard someone mention that it'll give 1:1 on XP/AN in Campaign Battles, but I can't find anything with regards to that.

Raises per minute cap on XP/AN to 98, still earns 2xp for 1 AN as far as actions during a battle goes.

[Priran]

If you're getting 1:1 AN:EXP it's because you capped out your tags.

[rog]

Sorry but I am gonna have to disagree with that as well.

What exactly do you think is so hard about casting bio, and running to the porter while it casts stone4?

[Spencerlutz]

Obviously it's hard because blu doesn't get bio.

[rog]

Obviously it's hard because blu doesn't get bio.

blu/rdm does.

[Draylo]

Way you phrased it made it seem like they were to kite him. That strategy pretty much a real risk, better off duoing it.

[Lagunasa]

TP return for Asuran Fists when all 8 hit, with Destroyers that is?

Edit: question mark lulz

[Lagunasa]

Depends on your Asuran gear.

Oh yea..I have STP +7 from Usu feet and thats it.

Was thinking about swapping in Rajas, with super non evasive/salvage/trash mobs

[rog]

Way you phrased it made it seem like they were to kite him. That strategy pretty much a real risk, better off duoing it.

Risk what? a 10k pop item?

[Draylo]

Risk what? a 10k pop item?

Time..? You think its gonna take 10 minutes?

[Byphareast]

Has anyone ever tested the claims of Crepes having MDT-%?

Mushroom is said to have -5%
Butter is said to have -1%
Pear is unknown.
Chocolate is unknown.

I dont read Japanese so im unsure if these reports mean a global -% MDT or if it works like Conquest items. Either way, its something I haven't seen talked about much.

Everything besides Mushroom and Ham/Cheese is 1% (3/256).
Ham/Cheese 3% (8/256).

I'm not too sure on what Conquest items are but it works in any type of region. It is not know whether it is -MDT or MD+.

[rog]

Time..? You think its gonna take 10 minutes?

Eh, it doens't take that long. And it's not like faith is just killed so often that people would usually see it. It's certainly possible to get it stolen, but not exactly all that likely.