Random Question Thread IX: Mathology 101

[TacoTaru]

So I've been away from the game for about six months or so now, but I've been briefly keeping up with things in case I came back. Are the final form Magian weapons (specificaly the +DMG +Delay Occ. Attacks Twice ones) now the best weapons? I'm just curious if these weapons are worth pursuing as I really don't have a whole lot I'd like to do if I came back, but these have piqued my interest as something to keep me busy. If this is discussed thoroughly in the Magian weapon thread I apologize, but what little looking I did over it I thought it was just discussion of the different trials.

[Nameless]

I currently have a castdelay="0.2" for my spellcast for all WSs to make sure that the precast gears settle in before the WS is released. Is this necessary? I have heard many different takes on this and was wondering if I can get rid of that delay. It seems to slow me down in high haste situation with OAT weapon, but those situations are usually high lag situations as well so....

Thank you

[Nameless]

So I've been away from the game for about six months or so now, but I've been briefly keeping up with things in case I came back. Are the final form Magian weapons (specificaly the +DMG +Delay Occ. Attacks Twice ones) now the best weapons? I'm just curious if these weapons are worth pursuing as I really don't have a whole lot I'd like to do if I came back, but these have piqued my interest as something to keep me busy. If this is discussed thoroughly in the Magian weapon thread I apologize, but what little looking I did over it I thought it was just discussion of the different trials.

I believe aside from WAR, SAM, PLD, and MNK, all the OAT weapons are currently the best option for damage dealing. WAR and SAM are marginal upgrade (sidegrade?) with DRG's being perhaps better than relic/mythic. Someone else correct me if I am wrong.

[TacoTaru]

I believe aside from WAR, SAM, PLD, and MNK, all the OAT weapons are currently the best option for damage dealing. WAR and SAM are marginal upgrade (sidegrade?) with DRG's being perhaps better than relic/mythic. Someone else correct me if I am wrong.

WAR, SAM, PLD, MNK being Rune Chopper/Perdu, Hagun, Joy and Destroyers as best respectively then I'd guess? (Sorry this is a pretty fail question, just making sure I haven't missed anything <_<)

[Darkmagi]

kurodachi beats hagun when fulltime meleeing. But if tp spam is an issue or your just lazy go for hagun.

[Edrakali]

Prelude to a Storm WOTG31 - Any experience/advice for this? Wiki discussion all talks about full pt setups, was hoping to do with 3-4?

This fight can be easily done with 3 people. Two DD with a source of defender/cocoon (defense food is a plus). One RDM with phalanx II or a SCH/RDM. The first two rooms should be pretty easy. However, in the third room, things can get messy. It is suggested that you never jump in the third room at all, just stay in the second room and wait for the mobs to come in, they march in very slowly. Be ready to use your dusty wing and other meds quickly on the demons (There are 3 demons total). Good luck!

[Darkmagi]

Actually, I have heard of a whm that opened mystic boon doing nothing but campaign battles. May be worth checking, especially if it gets people to stop trying to break trial weapons in my parties.

Those two mp restore WS give 1 WS point IIRC.

[TheMysteriousX]

What WS should a PUP without Stringing Pummel use?

inb4 get Stringing Pummel. Working on it.

[Deader2818]

I can't seem to find the thread on discussions on relics. Was trying to find what made Amano such a good relic.

[Darkmagi]

Kaiten has a 3.0 mod at 100 tp.

[JimBob]

Does anyone have any strategies or videos for soloing KSNMs like Double Dragonian, or links to such? I seem to remember seeing a LJ with a decent strategy for doing it as blm or rdm, but I'm damned if I can find it or remember it.
It'll be on a mule, so no super-gear, just best of AH and decent ra/ex gear, jobs available rdm pld sam nin. Many thanks!

[TheMysteriousX]

I can't seem to find the thread on discussions on relics. Was trying to find what made Amano such a good relic.

The blunt end has a SAM attached to it.

[Darkmagi]

Yeah pretty much. But Kaiten is a pretty huge damage boost from YGK on anything without massive DEF. Soboro+Yoichi will pull ahead of amano in most of these situations though

[nitsuj]

Nah the actual system tray where Time and Volume icons are on the right. Having it on taskbar is distracting when Im trying to study and work

No, not built in. But I do plan on implementing this in v4.0 for similar reasons (like to stay logged in to bazaar, etc)

[Omniyoji]

Does anyone have any strategies or videos for soloing KSNMs like Double Dragonian, or links to such? I seem to remember seeing a LJ with a decent strategy for doing it as blm or rdm, but I'm damned if I can find it or remember it.
It'll be on a mule, so no super-gear, just best of AH and decent ra/ex gear, jobs available rdm pld sam nin. Many thanks!

Double Dragonian RDM solo:

blizz III > berzerker
ES+SleepII > minstrel

apply dots on berzerker
apply gravity
chainspell convert blizz III

berzerker x.x

dot kite minstrel while keeping buffs up
bind @ the end of kite paths
use blizz III when you can
SleepII and /heal for mp
remember to keep your distance

When covert is up dump blizz IIIs when applicable

~15min win!

Things to note:

bring some holy water for curse
use iceday + obi if possible
remember to use dispel
maybe something else I'm forgetting???

[JigglyJam]

DRG group 2 merits

Was going to unlock angon and deep breathing but where should I go from there?

[Nightfyre]

3/5 or 5/5 Angon depending on whether mobs melt or take some time to kill when you're on DRG.

3/5 Deep Breathing (I like the 10 minute recast) if you solo, some argue for 5/5 here as well.

Put the rest in Empathy and Strafe as you see fit.

My current preferred setup is 5 Angon, 3 Deep Breathing, 2 Strafe - I dislike Empathy because I may need to cancel some buffs to get the right ones to transfer. If I dropped Angon to 3 I'd probably take Strafe to 4. Non-solo I'd go 5 Angon 4 (5) Strafe 1 (0) Empathy or 3 Angon 5 Strafe 2 Empathy.

[Skeelo]

DRG group 2 merits

Was going to unlock angon and deep breathing but where should I go from there?

imo deep breathing really isnt worth it, but i guess its good for a epeen breath every 20min. Strafe will help add another 200-280 dmg to your ws via wyvern breath more consistanly. And maybe 1-2 in empathy so you can pass along haste or something to wyvern. Dont really need angon past 3/5 since most things will be dead in that time anyway.

[Buffy]

What's the general consensus on the 200k guild point item?

I was under the impression it doesn't get you to +4 skill, arguing about it with someone, was wondering if more recent testing had been done that I was unaware of.

[cdgreg]

What's the general consensus on the 200k guild point item?

I was under the impression it doesn't get you to +4 skill, arguing about it with someone, was wondering if more recent testing had been done that I was unaware of.

Wiki:
Moglification
When both guild furnitures of a craft are placed in the moghouse, the moghancement is upgraded to moglification. This will give the effect of the moghancement, and lower material loss on fails.

DOES NOT GIVE +4