Random Question Thread IX: Mathology 101

[Arelian]

Does anyone have a spare buddy pass they wouldn't mind letting me use? I tried to do the character retrieval service but servers are down or something and I wanna see some of the new changes first hand.

[rog]

It's not improvements to be made to your slug gear. Basically there's a flat pdif range where adding +ratt does nothing for your damage, both slug and normal shots. If you fired normal shots in that set, you'd find they all hit for the same number too. Untill you add enough +Ratt to get out of this flat zone, +Str or +Agi (WS) is the only way to up it's damage.

What is likely happening in your instance is that you're at the tail end of this flat pdif range, and adding 1 minuet is not enough to push you through and out the otherside, whereas the more potent chaos roll is.

Yup, that's exactly it. You'll notice that when you have vshot, minuet will make a pretty sizable difference. Berserk will also increase your damage quite a bit. With only one attack buff however, you won't really see any difference without a lot of attack in your set. If your mage can support it, definitely try /war, as it'll push you up to 1600~2000 or so with chaos/minuet.

[rog]

Does anyone have a spare buddy pass they wouldn't mind letting me use? I tried to do the character retrieval service but servers are down or something and I wanna see some of the new changes first hand.

pmd you.

[Windfoxster]

I don't really understand how Synergy works, I wasn't playing when it was added, etc. Now with that out of the way:

Do I need any actual Synergy skill to get something Synergized for me? Like let's say I want a Shikkoku Togi, can I just dumb the Aptant & Harness in the pot and let other people with the appropriate skills Synergize for me?

Yes, you can let other people do it for you. You just need to "end synergy".

[Villian]

Thanks noodles355 and rog. I remember my slugshot was doing 1.4kish with culverin on greater colibris with the same setup/buffs, so I was wondering would the new 46 DMG gun helps?

[Yugl]

Why does SCH have access to all Rune weapons? Is there anything nifty someone can come up with for usage beyond the Haste on the Axe? What spells might a SCH need 22% Haste for besides Drain and Aspir (Since you obviously want Pluto's Staff in those cases)?

[Draylo]

Can't seem to remember, do you need to do the AF weapons before you start the AF quests after you reset memory for theAF? I can't get the first AF quest but I got the weapon quest.

[Byrthnoth]

Well, you need the weapon drawn for the MP-draining latent to be active. SCH/DRK could use it for stun if they felt like it.

I think the most useful rune weapon for scholar is the bow because you can augment it with 2 MAB or INT.

[Dooom]

Can't seem to remember, do you need to do the AF weapons before you start the AF quests after you reset memory for theAF? I can't get the first AF quest but I got the weapon quest.

Yes, you start at the beginning of the storyline, with that being the AF weapon quest.

[rog]

Thanks noodles355 and rog. I remember my slugshot was doing 1.4kish with culverin on greater colibris with the same setup/buffs, so I was wondering would the new 46 DMG gun helps?

Eh, it's only 4 more damage than hellfire+1, not sure it's really worth it. Not to mention you lose the 7 racc, and 17 ratk. The biggets difference really is going to be having a brd+cor, and /war. My ws gear wasn't nearly as good as yours (lol), and with berserk, minuet, and a good chaos roll, i could get between 1600~2000 or so np. VS bumped that up a few hundred more, and with culverin i pretty consistently got over 2k.

[CDF]

I've seen this line of reasoning regarding Magian OAT:

1) It has been shown that the "occasionally attacks twice" (OAT) rate for one multi-hit Magian (31-DMG Athame) weapon is ~40%.
2) Since there is only one entry for OAT corresponding to Magian weapons, it is assumed that the OAT rate is actually ~40% regardless of weapon.

With that in mind, is there only one "OAT" entry for jailer weapons?

[Yugl]

Well, you need the weapon drawn for the MP-draining latent to be active. SCH/DRK could use it for stun if they felt like it.

I think the most useful rune weapon for scholar is the bow because you can augment it with 2 MAB or INT.

Bleh, if PS2 limitations allowed, I would try to get that.

[Weeks]

Is it possible to solo a Glamor Jupon in the Aqueducts? My best guess would be MNK/BST, sic a DC pet on a Fomor BLM partied with a RDM, and pray you can Hundred Fists the RDM to death just before the BLM murders you.

[Shinryuu]

Why does scholar have access to all Rune weapons?

Well...

[noodles355]

This is the problem with the system. Going to events for 4 hours a day for a month is ~120 hours helping the shell. In 120 hours at 100k/hr(which can be made by anyone, as conservative as it gets) you make 12mil. That's enough to buy BOTH an abody and byakko's.

Completely true in theory, it's not exactly accurate in reality unless you manage your time perfectly, never afk and are happy to spend all your time farming, etc etc etc.

Afterall, being AFK for 3 hours, checking the screen every 30 minutes is a lot easier than farming for 3 hours solid. Most other events also do not need constant attention (Time spent gathering, waiting on repops, resting, running to next pop spot, etc etc) I know one can argue that if you manage your time perfectly that this isn't the case, but people who feel that way have to accept that they are the exception, not the rule.

[Chen]

starting salvage, 1/2 the group inexperienced, whats the general best setup with:

whm/brd/sch/rdm
rdm/cor/mnk
rdm/brd/cor/thf(mandau)
sam/thf
mnk/sam/thf/brd/rdm
mnk/thf/brd
brd

to work with. everyone is geared to a very high standard, and everyone is good at tanking, except the rdm/cor/mnk, has never tried(new mnk75)

[Cairthenn]

Would anyone be able to give me the normal Treant .dat with file path? I have no clue where it went. :\

Edit: Nvm.

[Lornkeit]

Do crits proc on barrage? Would it be worthwhile to use pahluwan body on barrage?

[Aurara]

starting salvage, 1/2 the group inexperienced, whats the general best setup with:

whm/brd/sch/rdm
rdm/cor/mnk
rdm/brd/cor/thf(mandau)
sam/thf
mnk/sam/thf/brd/rdm
mnk/thf/brd
brd

to work with. everyone is geared to a very high standard, and everyone is good at tanking, except the rdm/cor/mnk, has never tried(new mnk75)

WHM
COR
THF
SAM
RDM
MNK
BRD

[Thorny]

Afterall, being AFK with a bot on at dragon's aery for 3 hours, checking the screen every 30 minutes is a lot easier than being AFK with a bot on at some trash mob location for 3 hours solid.

I disagree.