Jobs: hard to decide

[Aben]

People keep asking for examples of deciding spell sets. Here are all the spells I use situationally (and usefully):

Job Traits: 62 spell choices ALONE from job trait selection

Regen (kiting)
Sheep Song
Healing Breeze

Magic Defense Bonus (kiting/tanking heavy mage mobs)
Ice Break
Magnetite Cloud

Evasion Bonus (evasion soloing avatars or other lower level tough NM)
Screwdriver
Hysteric Barrage

Store TP (When it benefits more than other bonuses for DD)
Sickle Slash
Tail Slap

Counter (When I'll have enough acc, and am hit enough while tanking to make it worthwhile)
Enervation
Asuran Claws

Fast Cast (Tanking)
Bad breath
Sub-zero smash

Accuracy Bonus (Duh...)
Disseverment
Frenetic Rip
Dimensional Death (in level cap situations)

Attack Bonus (DD)
Battle Dance
Uppercut
Temporal Shift (if I need a reliable stun while DDing)
Death Scissors (level cap situations)

Auto Refresh
Primarily: Actinic Burst, Plasma Charge, Frightful Roar, and Self-Destruct
Level Cap: Voracious Trunk, Cold Wave, Stinking Gas, Light of Penance

Clead Mind (soloing imps, I typically don't use the other 9 spells under normal conditions)
Poison Breath
Filamented Hold
Sandspray

Conserve MP
Frost Breath
Firespit
Chaotic Eye
Zephyr Mantle

Defense Bonus (Cannonball /thf)
Vertical Cleave
Saline Coat

Killer Effects
Mix of 12 other spells for 4 killer effects if I have spare room against a specific mob type

Magic Attack Bonus (nuking)
Cursed Sphere
Sound Blast
Eyes on Me
Heat Breath
Magic Hammer
Reactor Cool
Memento Mori

Hp Boost trait (breath spell focus)
Flying Hip Press
Frypan

Resist Sleep
Pollen
Wild Carrot
Exuviation
Magic Fruit
Yawn

There are 2 other traits that I really don't use, admittedly

Stat boosts: if i need to boost a stat to beef up a spell; some carry over from traits and have to be mixed and matched to maximize traits with stats

STR (Vertical Cleave/Cannonball): 12 spells
VIT (Cannonball): 7 spells
INT (nukes): 4-5 spells
MND (Mind blast/magic hammer): 7 (including power attack lol)
CHR: 8-9

Spell Uses:

Main DD spells (others may be used situationally, but im getting impatient lol):
cannonball, vertical cleave, disseverment, frenetic rip, hysteric barrage

Breath DD: heat breath, frost breath, flying hip press, poison breath

Nukes: eyes on me, regurgitation, corrosive ooze, firespit, mind blast

Buffs: refueling, warm-up, triumphant roar, plasma charge, cocoon, metallic body, diamondhide, saline coat, amplification, memento mori, feather barrier

Debuffs: blank gaze, geist wall, infrasonics, chaotic eye, frightful roar, seedspray, sprout smack, filamented hold, feather storm, queasyshroom (ranged poison/gets rid of shadows), disseverment, sopoforic, yawn, sheep song, pinecone bomb, sound blast, spiral spin, sandspray, actinic burst, sub-zero smash, blastbomb, ice break, regurgitation

Stuns (yes they deserve their own category): headbutt, frypan, tail slap, temporal shift, and if u time it right > jettatura

Cures: magic fruit, wild carrot, exuviation, healing breeze

Hate spells: jettatura, exuviation, actinic burst, temporal shift, triumphant roar, blank gaze, sheep song (main ones used)

Now I need to actually be productive, but if this doesn't shows any indication how much thought we have to put into our spell sets at any given time, combined with all the gear sets we have, I don't know what will. Through all of this I use at least 3/4 of the 105 spells in my random adventures.

[Raen Ryong]

I count 2 sets for thf

1)Main TK + hands A.Armlets
2)Sub TK + hands A.Armlets

My THF could rape your BLU in any melee-friendly situation and my THF is nowhere near top tier.

Just sayin'.

[noodles355]

I count 2 sets for thf

1)Main TK + hands A.Armlets
2)Sub TK + hands A.Armlets

That joke is old and boring.

[Draylo]

Blu isn't a good job because virtually anything blu can do can be done much better by another job. In a bubble Blu is an allright job, but why settle for the 4th or 5th best option if you had a choice?




Ahahahah Classy. I think you are convincing everyone about the effectiveness of blue mage!!

Idiot.

My THF could rape your BLU in any melee-friendly situation and my THF is nowhere near top tier.

Just sayin'.

In a merit party where you go for a long time mob after mob? Perhaps, in any other fight? No.

Wtf are you talking about, My drg has like 11 sets and my thf has 16.

Did you even read the argument in the first place?

[Nicholette]

No job will hurt your inventory more than BLU and it has very demanding gear requirements all around because it requires a lot of the crap you'd use on blm, a lot of the stuff you'd use on a paladin, a lot of stuff you'd use on red mage, and a lot of the stuff you might use on something like drg. I would also consider it one of the hardest jobs to be exceptional at and you seem like someone who cares to use a job to its max potential. From what I understand you don't have a mage job or a tank job, if that's the case, I honestly suggest staying away until you at least have taken one of the types to 75 and built the types of gear sets required to make them functional. I'd recommend Sam, Mnk, Rng, Drg as the gear can be crossover/complementing amongst those jobs.... sort of.

Edit: This coming from someone who loves the job and has spent years working on hers and doing testing/experimenting/inventing with the job. If you are not "all about it", don't bother.

[Raen Ryong]

Einherjar, melee HNM (THF isn't a bad DD on these if you care to give em a Bard), merits, Limbus, etc. Nyzul depending on downtime (high = advantage for BLU).

Not saying BLU is bad, I personally find it a very fun and versatile job. I just don't think it'll keep up if melee damage is significant - though it brings a lot more to the table in many different ways too.

I didn't say that as an attack on BLU as a whole, just an attack on him for using that condescending antiTHF attitude~

[Meian]

No job will hurt your inventory more than BLU

this x999999 seriously
if it wasn\\\'t for satchel... lol XD

[noodles355]

Idiot.



In a merit party where you go for a long time mob after mob? Perhaps, in any other fight? No.



Did you even read the argument in the first place?

Yes, it went "amg blu is so complex i have so many gear sets, other DDs have lik eTP WS and PDT and that's it LOLOL".

Blu is more inventory intensive? Only if you make it so by bringing gear for sets you wont use for that event. Unless you're counting the total of all your ger from every set you might situationally use. But if we were to do that I'd probably be at like 130-140/80 at least on brd.

[Yvonne]

Twice in a row..... Just wow....



If you were above it, You wouldn't have pulled this pointless card out of nowhere. While I also have a career and work way too much as I'd like, Making a comment like this is just pointless. Nobody was even talking about people's living conditions and all of a sudden you're bringing out the Walfare card?

Think for a moment here. Your taxes support these gaming junkies. People that obviously have their BA/Masters in whatever field, yet they choose to abuse a system where they are completely able to work. This "depression" that the media hyped up so much about was over at the start of the year. MMOs are an escape from reality and confirmed by various medical fields as addiction. Whether some people like me and yourself that log on our free time or down to casual players from ZAM, we cannot live two lives to and not to see one of them fail. If you can find a balance, great (it's not hard to put down the game), but I don't enjoying seeing part of my paycheck paying for someone's "raid" times and/or trolling on message boards. This isn't even a rare case, even one of my old friends, who is a social worker in SoCal, sees these types of people grow readily, often flaunting of their lifestyle. How long before do you think Michael Moore won't cash in on this? Less than likely unless some GOPs are involved.

In his case, it's obvious which "life" he has chosen and which by most American standards, welfare trash. While you can draw praise about his groundwork about Amano builds in a video-game made for annual revenue reviews for stock holders, just gotta remember who's behind it.

[Nicholette]

Blu is more inventory intensive? Only if you make it so by bringing gear for sets you wont use for that event. Unless you're counting the total of all your ger from every set you might situationally use. But if we were to do that I'd probably be at like 130-140/80 at least on brd.

True. You are only accessing sets for 1 type of role at a time.

[Raen Ryong]

How many blind assumptions are you making here?

[homerun]

Think for a moment here. Your taxes support these gaming junkies. People that obviously have their BA/Masters in whatever field, yet they choose to abuse a system where they are completely able to work. This "depression" that the media hyped up so much about was over at the start of the year. MMOs are an escape from reality and confirmed by various medical fields as addiction. Whether some people like me and yourself that log on our free time or down to casual players from ZAM, we cannot live two lives to and not to see one of them fail. If you can find a balance, great, but I don't enjoying seeing part of my paycheck paying for someone's "raid" times. This isn't even a rare case, even one of my old friends who is a social worker, sees these types of people grow readily, often flaunting of their lifestyle.

In his case, it's obvious which "life" he has chosen and which by most American standards, welfare trash.

You realize he could steal candy from babies and it wouldn't change anything he's said in this thread right? Your pathetic ad hominem bullshit is just making you look petty and stupid.

[Draylo]

Yes, it went "amg blu is so complex i have so many gear sets, other DDs have lik eTP WS and PDT and that's it LOLOL".

Blu is more inventory intensive? Only if you make it so by bringing gear for sets you wont use for that event. Unless you're counting the total of all your ger from every set you might situationally use. But if we were to do that I'd probably be at like 130-140/80 at least on brd.

Except that wasn't the base for the argument
. Go get some glasses and try again.

[BadKarma]

level WHM RDM BRD and BLM

this is the correct answer

[Shinryuu]

No job will hurt your inventory more than BLU

Uh, what? Only if you care entirely too much about a job that sucks. By the way, a lot of BLU gear works cross-jobs (thinking Homam, MDT, PDT, uh BLU uses HP gear for breaths don't they? Works for DRK zerg too).

[Flic]

Do you need control of snow zones in campaign for campaign to happen in castle zones, I assume this is the case ?

[Yvonne]

You realize he could steal candy from babies and it wouldn't change anything he's said in this thread right? Your pathetic ad hominem bullshit is just making you look petty and stupid.

I think for someone who only has BLU leveled less than lv.40 pointing out that 100+ spells quote out of context and then tossing in SAM, like in many of his posts, as the golden goose of XI is pretty bad.

[noodles355]

I think everyone stopped caring about your posts when you brought up the real life shit.

Also this holier than thou tax payer shit is lame.

[Khajit]

Draylo is doing a great job of cementing blu's place as the new puppetmaster.

[Nicholette]

Uh, what? Only if you care entirely too much about a job that sucks.

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