New Classes Discovered

[Kirb]

Proof is that the classes are in the dats, nobody really cares if you believe it or not.

One thing you guys need to realize is that:

being in the dats != being in the final release or currently playable

Nobody is saying they will make it into the game for launch or at all.

All we're doing is sharing what we found. It should be taken as an indication of what SE is possibly working on that they havn't announced yet. If you're looking for proof and confirmed shit, try this site, its pretty too:
na.finalfantasyxiv.com

Cool story bro.

Before you start making condescending posts and acting like an ass in general, the point is that the classes that have not been crossed out on the chart can be cross referenced in multiple places within the dats, whereas the others can not, implying that the classes are more likely to be making an earlier appearance (if at all) than the others, which is actually useful information.

We've known about Assassin and other for a while, now. It's not new information.

[Loaar]

Cool story bro.

Before you start posting condescending posts and acting like an ass in general, the point is that the classes that have not been crossed out on the chart can be cross referenced in multiple places within the dats, whereas the others can not, implying that the classes are more likely to be making an earlier appearance (if at all) than the others, which is actually useful information.

So get off the high horse.

You asked if they were in the dats, they confirmed they are. Your talking down to them more than they are to you Kirb.

Pot meet kettle?

[Kirb]

I asked a question and was given an incredibly rude response.

Regardless, if you don't want to post new evidence within the dats, that's fine, just say so.

In addition, that is not what I asked, please read my posts more carefully.

[Cooleko]

Far as I knew, these were the only classes confirmed in dats:
Crossed out classes were speculation with no actual evidence. AKA: Assassin and the rest.

If you have proof of other classes that state otherwise, please provide the information.

the point is that the classes that have not been crossed out on the chart can be cross referenced in multiple places within the dats, ... , which is actually useful information.

Does anybody actually read my posts?

If you don't want to post new evidence within the dats, that's fine, just say so. Jesus Christ.

I read your posts, it seems you are not happy with only one appearance in the .dats well if you want a consolidation prize, at least you know that whalloponaman(WHM) isnt in the dats. here is a cookie...

If something is not in the .dats we can safely assume it has absolutely no way of being in the present game.

If it appears even once, we can safely assume it is in the game (whether or not we have access to it).

Now, if you arent happy unless the job has both a spot and a weapon/armor/abilities. Then you can be happy with your list.

The rest of us are open to w/e SE tosses our way and are not discounting jobs if they are not fleshed out yet. They either make jobs overlap or toss in new equip and abilities for these new jobs on release. (We have no idea if they exist in SE master copy or not)

They already learned their mistake with including the soundtrack, they arent going to make it with the jobs that will be a present at release to make people happier/psyched.

[Kirb]

I read your posts, it seems you are not happy with only one appearance in the .dats well if you want a consolidation prize, at least you know that whalloponaman(WHM) isnt in the dats. here is a cookie...

If something is not in the .dats we can safely assume it has absolutely no way of being in the present game.

If it appears even once, we can safely assume it is in the game (whether or not we have access to it).

Now, if you arent happy unless the job has both a spot and a weapon/armor/abilities. Then you can be happy with your list.

The rest of us are open to w/e SE tosses our way and are not discounting jobs if they are not fleshed out yet. They either make jobs overlap or toss in new equip and abilities for these new jobs on release. (We have no idea if they exist in SE master copy or not)

They already learned their mistake with including the soundtrack, they arent going to make it with the jobs that will be a present at release to make people happier/psyched.

The only thing I am saying is that if a job can be cross-referenced in the dats, the chances of the job becoming available is more likely than that of a class that is not referenced, and may simply be placeholders.

What I was asking was if there was any new evidence in the dats regarding the classes that were previously not cross-referenced. I'm not sure if I made this unclear or something, but if I did I apologize. It still does not really forgive the initial rude response, however.

I'm not trying to discredit or say that the other classes are not in the dats (if only in name), because I know they are.

[zeu]

Children, children.. play nicely.


Looking at ability data and cross referencing the classes, currently in-active classes that have data are;

Fencer, Enforcer, Musketeer, Sentinel, Arcanist... including Land/Hand classes that are still inactive (but we know they're coming..); Armorer, Goldsmith, Alchemist, Culinarian, Fisher

Out of the War/Magic classes, the basic abilities all require the specific class .. except for Sentinel and Arcanist. There is already somewhat of a cross-over between Sentinel/Gladiator with shield skill, I don't really know much about it. But class-specific abilities for the other three, that's about as confirmed as we can get. That, and screenshots of guilds in-game are a big clue there is something being considered or in the works.


Now everyone stop bickering, please. It reminds me why I never post on forums in the first place.

[xavia75]

What I was asking was if there was any new evidence in the dats regarding the classes that were previously not cross-referenced. I'm not sure if I made this unclear or something, but if I did I apologize. It still does not really forgive the initial rude response, however.

Hi Kirb, sorry if you took that as rude. It wasn't intended that way. Although since it was written in frustration I can understand how it may have that feel too it.

That being said, it's important that you do be more clear. Because myself and Zeu and have literally given the few months of our lives to mining the client and putting that into a useful tool for the community. To come on here and be treated like a lier is, as I said, frustrating. It also doesn't make me inclined to share anything else in the future.

/olivebranch

[Kirb]

S'all good.

[zeu]

... myself and Zeu and have literally given the few months of our lives to mining the client and putting that into a useful tool....

Your mother is a useful tool!



Anyway, glad we can all be friends.

[AshTS]

Hi Kirb, sorry if you took that as rude. It wasn't intended that way. Although since it was written in frustration I can understand how it may have that feel too it.

That being said, it's important that you do be more clear. Because myself and Zeu and have literally given the few months of our lives to mining the client and putting that into a useful tool for the community. To come on here and be treated like a lier is, as I said, frustrating. It also doesn't make me inclined to share anything else in the future.

Forgive me as well if I was coming off like y'all are a pack of liars. I'm still a little doubtful as to the Assassin, Sentinel, etc, but I don't think you guys are purposefully attempting to deceive us by any means.

[Ratatapa]

Ok I guess this is gone far enough before people starts calling themselves other names

Jobs will be announced as they come out