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[BadKarma]

yea man, i just can't sleep at night because i don't manually PL myself or get slowed down when i use jas

or run through the fucking gates on the way to Byakko. Thanks Ifuzz!

[Baelorn]

The whole topic is retarded, nobody competent still cares about botting.

Dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as incompetent isn't really the best way to win an argument(not saying that this one can be won).

[Aurara]

this whole thread went to shit the minute the hype died down. Now its just Draylo/Baelorn/Priran vs Thorny/Tsuko in an argument where Draylo continues to prove hes just nothing more than a nobody nothing troll, who should probably come up with real arguments instead of this retarded bullshit.

[Priran]

yea man, i just can't sleep at night because i don't manually PL myself or get slowed down when i use jas

And yet you feel compelled to cheat at a video game.

Which is beside the point, I wasn't talking about your botting, I was talking about this attitude that "everybody bots so it's ok". It's an excuse. A bad one.

[sruon]

only 5 years late.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I don't know about everyone else, but I POS hack because its so much freaking fun, not because I'm trying to gain an advantage over anyone else ;D

[Callisto]

yea man, i just can't sleep at night because i don't manually PL myself or get slowed down when i use jas

Just out of curiosity, does JA0Wait really do anything that putting a blinking swap in doesn't? The only JAs that I ever have to stop moving at all for are DNC ones because of the extended animations, I put one swap into my JAs for each job, usually just trading the hands out to another piece with similar hp/mp/etc, and I never stop moving when I use them.

[Draylo]

this whole thread went to shit the minute the hype died down. Now its just Draylo/Baelorn/Priran vs Thorny/Tsuko in an argument where Draylo continues to prove hes just nothing more than a nobody nothing troll, who should probably come up with real arguments instead of this retarded bullshit.

Where is the pot kettle pic you love using so much? A nobody, oh dear you just hurt my feelings !

[Thorny]

Dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as incompetent isn't really the best way to win an argument(not saying that this one can be won).

Fair enough.

Since FFXI requires no reflexes, simply thought, we can assume that a good player is both an intelligent player and has learned many things about the game already. Keep in mind that intelligence is a measure of ability to learn and adapt, while knowledge is that which has already been learned.

Drawing from this, an intelligent player is also an intelligent person, as intelligence itself is a general quality.

An intelligent person will realize that kings are botted and most(all?) other NMs are not competed for enough to merit a bot. While they may or may not camp kings, they realize that bots will not end there as there will always be a way to simulate simple actions through programs and there will always be people aiming for an unfair advantage.

An intelligent person will either avoid kings or use a bot.

If someone does not avoid kings or use a bot, they are not intelligent.

Since they are not intelligent, they're not a good player, and as such, incompetent.

Just out of curiosity, does JA0Wait really do anything that putting a blinking swap in doesn't? The only JAs that I ever have to stop moving at all for are DNC ones because of the extended animations, I put one swap into my JAs for each job, usually just trading the hands out to another piece with similar hp/mp/etc, and I never stop moving when I use them.

It works for DNC abilities and is guaranteed to proc, I know I don't always blink through the end of my casts on RDM and it's nice for that(despite the name, works on spells). I could play fine without it, just a convenience thing like TParty.

[Aurara]

Where is the pot kettle pic you love using so much? A nobody, oh dear you just hurt my feelings !

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...pot-kettle.gif

[Priran]

kings are botted

Because people felt compelled to cheat to gain an advantage. At first people made fun of them but then one day the need to throw some ridills on some shit took over and they were like "wait a second, I just remembered I have 0 fucking standards" and now we have a bunch of spoiled children running around spouting bullshit like "everybody bots lol what you don't bot? what a looser lulz"

I've yet to see a legitimate defense for botting.

[Baelorn]

An intelligent person will either avoid kings or use a bot.

If someone does not avoid kings or use a bot, they are not intelligent.

Since they are not intelligent, they're not a good player, and as such, incompetent.

I can agree with that. Also, deja vu. Pretty sure the last few pages were played out in the exact same way a couple weeks ago in a different thread.

[Aurara]

I've yet to see a legitimate defense for botting.

Because we want to know that we have a good chance at getting a claim instead of sitting in aery/BD/VoS with thumbs up our asses staring at a mob that WAS botted and is purple to us.

[Baelorn]

Because we want to know that we have a good chance at getting a claim instead of sitting in aery/BD/VoS with thumbs up our asses staring at a mob that WAS botted and is purple to us.

Botting because other people do it is not a legitimate defense for botting. It's a rationalization(valid imo but still).

[drwaffles]

This has to be the most failtastic trolling I've ever seen. Priran and Draylo are trying so hard, and instead of eliciting angry responses and flaming they're getting calm, logical counter-arguments. Too bad the peanut gallery isn't intelligent enough to realise what's going on.

[Priran]

Like I was saying, no legitimate excuse.

[Priran]

This has to be the most failtastic trolling I've ever seen. Priran and Draylo are trying so hard, and instead of eliciting angry responses and flaming they're getting calm, logical counter-arguments. Too bad the peanut gallery isn't intelligent enough to realise what's going on.

HE'S SAYING BOTTING IS BAD? HE MUST BE TROLLING!

Get lost.

[Aurara]

Botting because other people do it is not a legitimate defense for botting. It's a rationalization(valid imo but still).

Theres no getting around it, there is no "legit" defense for botting, there just isnt. If nobody botted, then it would be a perfect world...which really cant happen because somebody would eventually say to themselves "man fuck this ill just bot and get claim". But you cant trust that the other people in aery arent botting, so you bot in return and it continues in one big continuous cycle where everyone accuses one another.

[Priran]

So then we're in agreement, botters ruin the game.

[Kipling]

idk what they were. I play on lulXbox, id just type Cor and Drk w/e I wanted rolls and the dude did it. Made me want to play on pc even more.

Mafai?

My friend told me his mule would do all kinds of stuff like that if you gave it commands.