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  1. #401
    Nikkei's Hoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    that a true story? if so ..wow
    Armada has at least 15 or 16 level 1 rdm's in DA. No clue if Exodus really has 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Armada has at least 15 or 16 level 1 rdm's in DA. No clue if Exodus really has 30.
    Exodus on Remora?

  3. #403
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Selling r/e items really has no place in this discussion, and an item being r/e shouldn't really be a part of whether or not it's "fair" to sell it.
    I disagree. It's all part of denying others access to endgame content. Bots are key to monopolizing NMs so that only you can sell their drops and control the prices. R/Ex are just the most inflated which is why I mentioned them.

  4. #404
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    Get a linkshell that does Einherjar.
    That's not what I asked, either. I want to fight HNM. I want to fight Fafnir, I want to fight Nidhogg. How do I do this without botting, or perpetuating the act?

  5. #405
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Exodus on Remora?
    Levi

  6. #406
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    That's not what I asked, either. I want to fight HNM. I want to fight Fafnir, I want to fight Nidhogg. How do I do this without botting, or perpetuating the act?
    SE says: Do Nyzul Isle.

    Really.

    If you want the abjurations? Do Einherjar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Levi
    Yeah yeah, same thing.

    In my limited experience camping against them they have some mules but I don't know if there was 30. Robian posts here, he should find this.

  8. #408
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    That's not what I asked, either. I want to fight HNM. I want to fight Fafnir, I want to fight Nidhogg. How do I do this without botting, or perpetuating the act?
    Deal with the poor chance you stand of claiming.

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    I want to fight the actual Fafnir, and Nidhogg isn't otherwise available. How do I do that without botting, or perpetuating the act?

  10. #410
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    That's not what I asked, either. I want to fight HNM. I want to fight Fafnir, I want to fight Nidhogg. How do I do this without botting, or perpetuating the act?
    Cure bomb + Invincible. Blockaid didn't exist back then.

  11. #411
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    SE says: Do Nyzul Isle.

    Really.

    If you want the abjurations? Do Einherjar.
    And if you want the good drops(d.ring or ridill)?

  12. #412
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    Quote Originally Posted by residue View Post
    should bought a pack of condoms coulda save a lot more in the long run
    Good job trying to assume that my son was a mistake. I don't see what's wrong in my judgment on choosing my son's well being over something that will help me gain virtual items that won't mean shit in 10 years. Your trolling on me fails.

  13. #413
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    I want to fight the actual Fafnir, and Nidhogg isn't otherwise available. How do I do that without botting, or perpetuating the act?
    This argument is tired. Sometimes you have to make a choice. If you don't have a problem with botting then just say it. If you do have a problem with it then give up the "fun" of fighting mobs that can be 6-manned.

  14. #414
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natsuchii View Post
    Good job trying to assume that my son was a mistake. I don't see what's wrong in my judgment on choosing my son's well being over something that will help me gain virtual items that won't mean shit in 10 years. Your trolling on my fails.
    he isn't trolling on your fails brah

  15. #415
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    Deal with the poor chance you stand of claiming.
    And if, hypothetically speaking, a bot were to be created that kept competition as is within the botting community(botting linkshells could still compete with botting linkshells), but it was virtually impossible to claim without joining in the arms race? What then?

  16. #416
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    And if, hypothetically speaking, a bot were to be created that kept competition as is within the botting community(botting linkshells could still compete with botting linkshells), but it was virtually impossible to claim without joining in the arms race? What then?
    Build a time machine.

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    You can keep rephrasing and adding hypotheticals to this worn-out attempt to justify botting, the answer doesn't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    And if, hypothetically speaking, a bot were to be created that kept competition as is within the botting community(botting linkshells could still compete with botting linkshells), but it was virtually impossible to claim without joining in the arms race? What then?
    Have each member in your LS make 10 Galka mules and keep them at the Aery specifically for when Fafnir is going to pop. When the opposing LS claims, log the mules in and lag them until they die. Log them out as they die and claim when Fafnir turns Chinese.

  19. #419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelorn View Post
    This argument is tired. Sometimes you have to make a choice. If you don't have a problem with botting then just say it. If you do have a problem with it then give up the "fun" of fighting mobs that can be 6-manned.
    But I pay the same subscription fee as everyone else, shouldn't I be entitled to fight the same things that they do?

  20. #420
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    And if you want the good drops(d.ring or ridill)?
    Save up money, buy the drop. You don't have to bot in order to get the items.

    If you really wanted to fight Faf/Nid for the experience, you could easily join an HNM LS, camp, fight each once, quit the LS.

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