Holy shit this thread made 17 pages in less than a day? At least the moral war was somewhat entertaining.
Also Uryuu, thanks for the new sig material.
entertaining thread, though aurara annoyed the shit out of me with his useless posts (as usual)
I'm not a user of W1z, but am I understanding that they shut it down even though 90% of the population doesn't even give 3 shits anymore these days?
Hmm Ragnarok's list is very expected for the most part, though there are a few (hilarious) surprises as well.
Most of them are crap players who are always parked in Aery/Mire/*insert some other HNM location here* with subpar skills and gear who think that a Dalmatica or Ridill is going to fix that.
Nothing new really.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
why bother posting the Alexander list? we all know the entire server bots, its just a matter of what program is used and to what extent.
and no, i didn't bother reading 17 pages of this thread.
Every bot from FFapp when to him this is at all shocking? ~_~ anyone on that list will be on this list as well.
Tho a few key people are missing from that list I think.... Like a mule of mine? So its not a full list.
Edit: now that I look at the list >.> at least 2 people are missing from it.
I find it semi interesting that the majority of users on my server arent originally from my server. There's like 10 people at most as far as i can tell that come from Quetz originally.
FROM THE SHADOWS, wow lol...
Well said Priran, could not agree more with all the posts. I will say there are many people I know playing who feel the same as us. Many that I know are Japanese and will not post here, although they find the bot list for Diabolos particularly comical since we had several aggressive confrontations with said people while camping Ixion and Sand Worm. The rest who are NA players just don't care to bother with cheaters/gil buyers/etc other than comical reasons.
Unfortunately we had to accept years ago that cheating in this game would not be stopped and it has become another obstacle in the HNM scene just like any other obstacle to progression in FFXI. There are ways around it, albeit Einjar etc, but it's still just a substitute for fixing the real problem. But you never know, sometimes SE surprises us with some actions.
Fortunately for us there seems to be a pattern in which they will bot everything they ever wanted or thought they wanted then quit the game and sell characters.
You are entitled to the people who are ruining your experience by cheating being banned. I trust you will be as happy as I will if that ever actually happens.
As a rule, the few anti-botting people left acknowledge that Square's half-assed enforcement of their rules is as much to blame for this as the people who choose to cheat. But no, nobody is off the hook for their own actions as long as there are people in endgame or being kept out of endgame who refuse to play along.