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  1. #601
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    The only way to eliminate bots is to eliminate the game on PC.

  2. #602
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    They could just make KS99s have a 10% drop rate on an orb that triggers an HQ BCNM against a similar mob. If that mob can drop an abjuration from its counter-part HNM at 100% rate, and Ridill/D.Ring at a lower rate (10% or so), then no one would bother to camp Kings and very few would need to bother botting (people would still do it, but it wouldn't nearly as prevalent).

    Leave the kings the same way, just give smaller groups ways to get the items elsewhere (let's face it, Einherjar failed because it requires 18 or more to win access to Odin consistently).

    Alternatively, if Salvage gear can be augmented by Trial of the Magians, most of the need for camping Kings will be gone anyway (Ares's Cuirass with +10 or more accuracy? Fuck yeah.).

  3. #603
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    I always liked the bullshit bot drama @ king camps. Made the game fun everyone talking shit

  4. #604
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    I would rather instanced and some sort of system like assault with tags or something rather than force pop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    I would rather instanced and some sort of system like assault with tags or something rather than force pop.
    Tags? Even with captain, there are never enough tags to go around. No, no, no. I hate that goddamn system.

  6. #606
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathayus View Post
    The only way to eliminate bots is to eliminate the game on PC.
    I like this idea.

  7. #607
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    How dafuck...

    lol. Funny thing is, my mule is on the list (never purchased it for my mule) and my mules name is spelled wrong. Weeee.

  8. #608
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    And every post of yours is some dumbshit post about how BLU is the godsend holy grail saviour of the FFXI community, how BLU is the best tank, best DD, best sleeper, best healer, best kiter, best soloer, best head giver, you name it, blu does it best...of course you can never back up these points.
    Having never played blu and understanding that in many HNM and group scenario's its uses are rather limited, I have very little understanding of what the job is capable of. Nevertheless, I have a few opinions about other jobs' functions that vary from the majority, though my inability to understand and produce complicated mathematics keeps me from proving my ideology. Sometimes intuitive or creative thought can manufacture better results than what appears to be proven facts through math, usually when undesired or unexpected variables intervene. When these variables become so commonplace that a "correct" formula is no longer always as described, differential opinions of a job's value often come into play.

    I know this has very little to do the quote and I don't claim Blu is horrible or great. I just know that a job's ability to perform outside of the primary formula is rarely factored into what's considered proven data. Versatility is an attribute that's difficult to include in a formula for success, making proving a job's multi-faceted capabilities rather difficult.

  9. #609
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    Quote Originally Posted by solanis View Post
    Tags? Even with captain, there are never enough tags to go around. No, no, no. I hate that goddamn system.
    Huh? I wasn't suggesting they use the tags from the assault office for the fights. Just a system similar where you go to a npc get a tag and fight a HNM and it replenishes once a day, which is basically no different than now.

  10. #610
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Forced pops work if implemented correctly.
    But what about competition?

    You could limit claims to 74 or higher to limit mules somewhat. It wouldn't eliminate them but at least everyone would have a fair shot at claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Skull View Post
    But what about competition?

    You could limit claims to 74 or higher to limit mules somewhat. It wouldn't eliminate them but at least everyone would have a fair shot at claim.
    1. Make a pop item
    2. Have multiple ??? in different zones
    3. Trading a pop item makes the NM pop
    4. People engaged or in a party/alliance with people engaged to the NM unable to fight the same NM for 21hrs

    What's this about competition? You can eliminate competition by making the trigger item obtained in a non-competitive way. Pankration points, for example.

  12. #612
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    Spend 1000 Scylds(or tabs either works) for a pop item to pop a Behemoth type NM with a 25% chance of popping HQ. NQ drops with decent drop rate behemoth abjurations, the HQ has higher drop rate on abjurations and a 5~10% drop rate on D ring.

    Apply same thing to other HNMs and viola' problem solved.


    As per botting, I'd rather have a pl botting member pulling their own weight with their main in pt than one of those members that thinks they can sit and leach exp because they're PLing the pt with an alt account.

    Just my 2 cents...

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    Just an additional note here to the OP;

    You haven't pwned me at all, the only people you pwned are the people on the list you're accusing of being wizbot users, although 99% of them don't really seem to give 2 fucks, nor do many people not on that list but it goes to show the kind of fucktard you are to try fuck over 3000 people based on 1 person you dislike what a piece of shit lol, and as for my character on that list, it's an old account I don't use (one of many in fact), this hasn't effected me in any way... oh wait yes it has; I've had an influx in buyers again in the last 2 days and earned over $1100 :D all you really did was set me back 1 day made me update Wizbot and hash all data in the database to prevent any future security breaches and give me free advertising, and I really love all this drama around me, makes me feel special <3

    BTW I know who you are now, I'm gonna fuck you til you love me faggot.

  14. #614
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naf View Post
    Just an additional note here to the OP;

    You haven't pwned me at all, the only people you pwned are the people on the list you're accusing of being wizbot users, although 99% of them don't really seem to give 2 fucks, nor do many people not on that list but it goes to show the kind of fucktard you are to try fuck over 3000 people based on 1 person you dislike what a piece of shit lol, and as for my character on that list, it's an old account I don't use (one of many in fact), this hasn't effected me in any way... oh wait yes it has; I've had an influx in buyers again in the last 2 days and earned over $1100 :D all you really did was set me back 1 day made me update Wizbot and hash all data in the database to prevent any future security breaches and give me free advertising, and I really love all this drama around me, makes me feel special <3

    BTW I know who you are now, I'm gonna fuck you til you love me faggot.
    U MAD?

  15. #615
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naf View Post
    SNIP

    BTW I know who you are now, I'm gonna fuck you til you love me faggot.
    Im sure you will do absolutely nothing.

    http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...ta92/ethug.jpg

  16. #616
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naf View Post
    Just an additional note here to the OP;

    You haven't pwned me at all, the only people you pwned are the people on the list you're accusing of being wizbot users, although 99% of them don't really seem to give 2 fucks, nor do many people not on that list but it goes to show the kind of fucktard you are to try fuck over 3000 people based on 1 person you dislike what a piece of shit lol, and as for my character on that list, it's an old account I don't use (one of many in fact), this hasn't effected me in any way... oh wait yes it has; I've had an influx in buyers again in the last 2 days and earned over $1100 :D all you really did was set me back 1 day made me update Wizbot and hash all data in the database to prevent any future security breaches and give me free advertising, and I really love all this drama around me, makes me feel special <3

    BTW I know who you are now, I'm gonna fuck you til you love me faggot.
    Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
    And it's not hard to find me, I'll be looking over your shoulder watching everything you do (:
    Also, I'm glad you have more users now and I hope you get more. I would like to update my OP with some more information.

    You misunderstood my intentions, my goal was to show your customers what kind of character you are by posting your PMs (userlist and forum messages were just proof the information was real). Unfortunately the controversy around the userlist took away from the real purpose of exposing you for the asshole you really are.

    If anyone else is thinking of buying his bot, I suggest you download the zipped files in the OP and read his private PMs to see what kind of asshole your dealing with. You may end up paying $20 and getting banned a few days later simply because he felt like it. I suggest you buy a real bot (if you have to), there are much better alternatives then his bot and a lot cheaper. If you just want JA0Wait, there's a free version out there to which I already posted a link to.

    Ultimately I cannot stop people from buying your bot but always fun to try. Until SE stops you or your bot I shall continue this venture.

  17. #617
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naf View Post
    I've had an influx in buyers again in the last 2 days and earned over $1100 :
    well this is an obvious lie


    Quote Originally Posted by Naf View Post

    BTW I know who you are now, I'm gonna fuck you til you love me faggot.
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand so is this

  18. #618
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen View Post
    well this is an obvious lie




    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand so is this
    the second might be... But the first part about a more buyers could very well be real. Its what happened when App went down and the 1st name to pop up was his wiz bot thing. So it very well could be. The same thing happened when taj posted a link to ffxi-app. Many people bought it because they did not know about it.

    All this may do is stop a few people who have the bot already from using it anymore(ps they paid as it is so he could give two shits)

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    i doubt anyone who has read this thread, didn't know about wizbot before this so it's no publicity boost really. he's just throwing out random figures because we can't prove otherwise, and to make himself look good after getting embarrassed.

  20. #620
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen View Post
    i doubt anyone who has read this thread, didn't know about wizbot before this so it's no publicity boost really. he's just throwing out random figures because we can't prove otherwise, and to make himself look good after getting embarrassed.
    I'm sure there were at least a few that read this that hadn't heard of it before. Plus it was cross posted to other forums, where less people would know about it.

    He's most likely got a few extra sales out of this, though 55 seems like a bit of a strech.

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