Campaign weapons

[kodos1]

The Campaign Update thread pretty much died out with only a few posts about the two campaign sword weapon skills. I'm looking on a little more information on damage averages. I'm not coming anywhere near the 1100-1800s posted on Glory Slash and got that one the day after the Urial Blade fix so I'm wondering if maybe they lowered the damage or if that's still pretty much the bottom line. As for Uriel Blade there were only a couple posts, but that one seemed pretty well worked out. It would still be nice to hear from others though on their overall damage averages. I know, very few people probably care, but if you take the time to reply, thanks. If you'd care to post relavent stats / food effects/ songs that would be even better.
Thanks!

[Elesar]

Well I don't know about the swords but I can give you a tiny bit of info about the staff. The weapon skill does no damage at all. It puts all enemies to sleep within the range. The range is a pretty large radius around the target mob that the weapon skill was used on. The sleep effect has a chance to miss. Sleep lasts about 30 seconds on regular mobs. The Magic Defense / Magic Evasion down lasts about 1 minute or so. Of course this is all at 100% tp and the higher your TP the longer the effects lasts and the higher the accuracy on the sleep effect. This of course was all done on my SMN so results might be better on a job that actually has higher INT or something like BLM or SCH (I don't know I never bothered doing any research on he weapon)

I would also like to mention that do not try this on a group of mobs that don't have any hate on any other enemies as they will all wake up and attack you right away.

[Meian]

I wonder about the staff if it'll give xp points as an enfeeble. If so that could be a lot given

[Baelorn]

Using the same gear I use for Vorpal Blade Uriel Blade does anywhere from 100ish to 700ish damage. Using Uriel surrounded by Shadowhorn Stormers, Shadowsoul Devourers and Shadowhorn the damage spread was pretty interesting. Almost 500 on the dragons and shadowhorn but sub-200 on the stormers.

[Archain]

The damages I posted with Glory Slash were with a THF using SA, just remember that the regular non-SA strikes were part of the AoE and you'll see that it was in the 600-800 range usually.

There's a few more, just messing around.

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[miokomioko]

God forbid they stop putting PUP on staves... Doesn't that Mithra MNK with the Yagudo hat have a unique Hand-to-Hand weaponskill?

[ronin sparthos]

Yes, the Leonine Legflail.

Ive seen alot of THF using the sword for the damage Glory Slash does when stacked with SA. It seems overall better than Uriel but honestly I don't think id put myself through -1inventory for a weaponskill that isn't anything short of win ._.

[Dooom]

God forbid they stop putting PUP on staves... Doesn't that Mithra MNK with the Yagudo hat have a unique Hand-to-Hand weaponskill?

Won't lie, I'm really disappointed we didn't get this. Pretty sure other NPCs have unique WS we didn't get either (doesn't Vhino, the mithra rng, have a unique bow WS?)

[Narol]

Pretty much every general has a unique ws of some sort.

Also if I could have any hand-to-hand ws, I'd take Bear Killer over Leonine Legflail, just because the name sounds much more badass.

[Yugl]

Using the same gear I use for Vorpal Blade Uriel Blade does anywhere from 100ish to 700ish damage. Using Uriel surrounded by Shadowhorn Stormers, Shadowsoul Devourers and Shadowhorn the damage spread was pretty interesting. Almost 500 on the dragons and shadowhorn but sub-200 on the stormers.

Uriel is magic based DMG I think. Don't use a Vorpal set with it.

[Kaeko]

Can't for the life of me find where I saw this, but for Uriel, it's magic damage enhanced by MAB with rough modifiers: 0.42 MND 0.42 STR. It's somewhere here on BG

[Malacite]

I was kinda hoping for Duskraven's GSD Attack that has the AoE terror...

[miokomioko]

I really wish they just added maybe two weapons per nation, helping round out the jobs that benefit a bit. Crossbow (windurst), Hand-to-Hand (bastok), and Greatsword (sandy) would be appropriate.

[Karbuncle]

Yah, theres totally "New Campaign items" listed in the "Update calender" SE released at the Vana-fest.

I'm willing to bet a good majority of those are going to be more Campaign-Specific weapons.


Going to go ahead and assume we'll probably get most of the Campaign Hero Weaponskills, but not the "recruited" Hero's.

[Meian]

Can't for the life of me find where I saw this, but for Uriel, it's magic damage enhanced by MAB with rough modifiers: 0.42 MND 0.42 STR. It's somewhere here on BG

It was on the Campaign update topic. I usually hit around 600 on average

[Dooom]

Going to go ahead and assume we'll probably get most of the Campaign Hero Weaponskills, but not the "recruited" Hero's.

This would make me happy. What would make me even happier is if we could do quests - even if only Nyzul WS style ones involving WS points - to let us use these WS without the weapon, even if only in campaign battles. The campaign "hero" NPCs obviously all have some kind of story behind them, and provide a good opportunity for Aht Urghan General style story-based quests, full of story fluff... and I kinda wish I hadn't had this thought, as I don't expect any such thing to be added, which makes me sad because it'd be awesome

[Raelia]

I was kinda hoping for Duskraven's GSD Attack that has the AoE terror...

This, and I want it on Cruadin.

[Anoat]

This would make me happy. What would make me even happier is if we could do quests - even if only Nyzul WS style ones involving WS points - to let us use these WS without the weapon, even if only in campaign battles. The campaign "hero" NPCs obviously all have some kind of story behind them, and provide a good opportunity for Aht Urghan General style story-based quests, full of story fluff... and I kinda wish I hadn't had this thought, as I don't expect any such thing to be added, which makes me sad because it'd be awesome

While I agree I would like to see quests for more, some of them are already there, if you know where to look. Some already have quests, like Areuhat and Babban Ny Mheila. Some like Rainemard and Kagetora's stories are told through their respective AF armor storylines. Dalzaak and Oggbi are involved in present day Bastok quests. I believe Zonpa-Zippa and Kayeel-Payeel are covered through the Windurst national storyline. Adelheid is featured heavily in the Bastok [S] questline. Noilleruie features in the WotG mission line, and, like other relic holders, plays a part in the relic quests. (Though admittedly, not many players will ever get to see the relic appearances aside from youtube)

To slightly derail (sorry) I would like to see quests to recruit the Beastmen Freelancers, that have been hinted at since their release but never expanded upon. I even had some ideas for them, lame as they may be:

Eurytos: Trade multiple Gigas trinkets to his throne/altar thingy in Vunkerl Inlet to prove your worth to him. Stuff like helmets, gauntlets, bracelets, socks. Alky's if you are daring! Eurytos will then become loyal to Allied Forces until he is slain in battle or the end of the conquest tally, whichever comes first.

Kaiser Behemoth: You find Kaiser Behemoth roaming around Vunkerl Inlet somewhere as an NPC. He is wounded from previous battles. Trade multiple stacks of lightning crystals to heal him, and he will fight for the Allied Forces in return until he is slain in battle or the end of the conquest tally, whichever occurs first.

Boodlix: Kill random goblins in the past areas until you get a rare/ex item "Boodlix Emporium Membership Card". Trade it to the goblin vendor in one of the three cities to arrange a meeting. Boodlix will agree to fight for the Allied Forces for a predetermined amount of gil. The total fee required will fluctuate depending on that country's progress in the war vs. the beastmen, example: You contact Boodlix in Sandy, which is typically always kicking the Orcs asses. Boodlix will ask for 25k for his services for one real life day, or 150k for the remainder of the conquest tally. If you contacted Boodlix from Windurst, which (on my server anyway) is usually on the losing end against Yagudos, Boodlix will be more difficult to sway to your side. He might ask for 50k for one real life day, or 350k for the entire conquest tally period. Boodlix will remain loyal for the amount of time for which he is paid, regardless of how many times he falls in battle.

Raigegue R d'Oraguille: Kill ghosts in the Bostaunieux Oubliette until one of them drops a rare/ex cursed ring. Take it to the priest in the cathedral that does normal uncursing of armor/abjurations. He will be shocked you found the ring, and say that he doesn't need an abjuration, as he is already familiar with the curse. You must then bring him a light crystal, holy water, and revival tree root. He will uncurse the ring which becomes the rare/ex "d'Oraguille Family Insignia". Take the ring to Eldieme Necropolis [S] where big corse guy hangs out, trade the ring to his grave. Raigegue will appear and say that you have reminded him of his humanity and eased his suffering. He'll then be loyal to the Allied Forces until he is slain in battle or the conquest tally ends, whichever comes first.

[Seol]

This would make me happy. What would make me even happier is if we could do quests - even if only Nyzul WS style ones involving WS points - to let us use these WS without the weapon, even if only in campaign battles. The campaign "hero" NPCs obviously all have some kind of story behind them, and provide a good opportunity for Aht Urghan General style story-based quests, full of story fluff... and I kinda wish I hadn't had this thought, as I don't expect any such thing to be added, which makes me sad because it'd be awesome

I wish they had given us the General's WSs :/ (Even if it was only inside Besieged too!) The Mithra's WS is just badass looking

[Baelorn]

Uriel is magic based DMG I think. Don't use a Vorpal set with it.

I was just using what I had, didn't feel like making a whole new set for PLD. I'll bust out my BLU sometime though and see how it does.