FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread II: Let's Speculate the Speculations

[Kalisa]

Where's that from?
Seems a bit out of nowhere.. and too good to be true :\

It's not too good to be true. Without going into details, I'll just ask you to trust that. These classes are all in the dats. It's a bit of a shame that whoever reuploaded it to imgur didn't give any credit to the person who released it. (Not me, I'm not claiming credit either... but I'll let that guy take it if he wants it, he knows it's been reposted).

Bear in mind that the fact that the skills are in the dats does NOT mean they're certain. Some are more certain than others (for example, musketeer and fencer have AH categories mapped out for their weapons, while flayer and bard aren't mentioned anywhere else). These are all there, though, as framework/concept/whatever.

[zephys]

Ahh, ok
Was just curious if it was dat classes or something else had been found, and I guess in the case of the AH categories something has.

[Loaar]

There is a musketeers guild in Limsa, however I'm still doubtful it will be a playable class at release. It seems more like a plot device than the other guilds. The NPC setup is different, there doesn't appear to be even a placeholder for a shop.

Who knows, maybe SE are just being sneaky, but I wouldn't get your hopes up just yet.

[Kalisa]

There is a musketeers guild in Limsa, however I'm still doubtful it will be a playable class at release. It seems more like a plot device than the other guilds. The NPC setup is different, there doesn't appear to be even a placeholder for a shop.

Who knows, maybe SE are just being sneaky, but I wouldn't get your hopes up just yet.

I don't think anyone's expecting all these classes at release. I'd wager we'll see a Zilart-esque expansion fairly quickly again with all the things they were working on but couldn't include at release--a couple new classes they decided to temporarily scrap in favor of completing the core game, some new areas that in 5 years we can't imaging not having, etc.

[Oreth]

@ meonline

Hey id be interested to know your secrets on leveling up so fast if you care to share? Last night was my 3rd Alpha test and im only lvl 13 Archer & 11 Physical.

Another thing i completely missed out on was the knowledge of being able to level other classes and use their abilities too... Man i completely missed the boat on half this shit. I went around as lvl 11 Archer & Physichal lvl 10 with the 3 starter abilities.... haha.

From flicking through some of the other posts and that one guys stories about the system it seems Lancer gets a TP move that grants you TP? Are these abilities limited like SJ abilities would be in FFXI?

For example if Lancer gets that TP Gain move at lvl 12 and i finish leveling Lancer to 20. I decide then to level archer, does that mean if my Archer is lvl 10 i can still equip that ability i learned from Lancer at lvl 12 or would i have to wait until Archer was lvl 24? Seems a bit overpowered if not.

[Hyan]

If LNC gets a skill at rank 12, and it's not exclusive to LNC, you can equip it as any other class once you hit rank 12 as that class.

[Loaar]

@ meonline

Hey id be interested to know your secrets on leveling up so fast if you care to share? Last night was my 3rd Alpha test and im only lvl 13 Archer & 11 Physical.

Another thing i completely missed out on was the knowledge of being able to level other classes and use their abilities too... Man i completely missed the boat on half this shit. I went around as lvl 11 Archer & Physichal lvl 10 with the 3 starter abilities.... haha.

From flicking through some of the other posts and that one guys stories about the system it seems Lancer gets a TP move that grants you TP? Are these abilities limited like SJ abilities would be in FFXI?

For example if Lancer gets that TP Gain move at lvl 12 and i finish leveling Lancer to 20. I decide then to level archer, does that mean if my Archer is lvl 10 i can still equip that ability i learned from Lancer at lvl 12 or would i have to wait until Archer was lvl 24? Seems a bit overpowered if not.

You can equip the level 12 ability once your new class reaches level 12 as well. There are no penalties for using a cross class skill, they work at full effectiveness assuming your using a skill from a class within the same discipline. Cross discipline has some penalties, such as AoEs becoming single target.

The lancer TP move (Invigorate)is pretty good, especially when used with the lancers HP drain (Speed Surge) since Invigorate drains HP in return for TP.

I've been playing since the first test, so thats 11 weeks of leveling lol.

I normally kill rats and do the level 1 leves til about rank 5, then move onto puks and roselings south of Bearded Rock.

At about 8-9 I start on Dodos near Ceadarwood, moving onto sheep and monkeys (dont recall the name) at 12ish. You can do the level 10 leves from about 7-8 depending on your class.

At about 14-15 I go up to Bloodskull? (name might be wrong) and kill nannygoats, rats, puks and chigoes depending on whats available. I start the level 20 leves about then as well.

From 16+ I go just north of Skull Valley and kill the Fat Dodos there.

[Oreth]

If LNC gets a skill at rank 12, and it's not exclusive to LNC, you can equip it as any other class once you hit rank 12 as that class.

You can equip the level 12 ability once your new class reaches level 12 as well. There are no penalties for using a cross class skill, they work at full effectiveness assuming your using a skill from a class within the same discipline. Cross discipline has some penalties, such as AoEs becoming single target.

The lancer TP move (Invigorate)is pretty good, especially when used with the lancers HP drain (Speed Surge) since Invigorate drains HP in return for TP.

I've been playing since the first test, so thats 11 weeks of leveling lol.

I normally kill rats and do the level 1 leves til about rank 5, then move onto puks and roselings south of Bearded Rock.

At about 8-9 I start on Dodos near Ceadarwood, moving onto sheep and monkeys (dont recall the name) at 12ish. You can do the level 10 leves from about 7-8 depending on your class.

At about 14-15 I go up to Bloodskull? (name might be wrong) and kill nannygoats, rats, puks and chigoes depending on whats available. I start the level 20 leves about then as well.

From 16+ I go just north of Skull Valley and kill the Fat Dodos there.

Thanks guys, that makes sense! Definatelly need to get up to speed with Lancer then. I figure without making it into too much of cookie cutter layout Archer / Lancer / Maurader would be a good combination for now then? Once i added the abilities i had available Archer became much more powerful. Taking Rams / Dodos down very fast now.

Is there anyway to double up your action bar instead of having just 1-9 and then having to click down to a new row of abilities? I find myself clicking on abilities more than using 1-9 because the reaction seems slower

[Loaar]

Is there anyway to double up your action bar instead of having just 1-9 and then having to click down to a new row of abilities? I find myself clicking on abilities more than using 1-9 because the reaction seems slower

Not that I know of.

[Slyth]

hello guys... i'm having trouble login in to the alpha client. the past 3 test i keep getting error 13001 the loby sever connection has encounter an error. error code 1001 status 3. how do i fixed this. i got invited in the eu test, but using the NA servers. could that be the problem? thanks in advance.

[serpillere]

hello guys... i'm having trouble login in to the alpha client. the past 3 test i keep getting error 13001 the loby sever connection has encounter an error. error code 1001 status 3. how do i fixed this. i got invited in the eu test, but using the NA servers. could that be the problem? thanks in advance.

If you have been selected for the EU alpha test you have to log in during EU times of the tests.

[Slyth]

oh even though i choose NA for region language?

[Oreth]

Anyone selected for the Alpha now are we included for the Beta too or only for Alpha tests?

[Hyan]

oh even though i choose NA for region language?

If you applied to EU test, and can log in to EU forums, then you are an EU tester :D.

Anyone selected for the Alpha now are we included for the Beta too or only for Alpha tests?

yesyes

[Loaar]

Anyone selected for the Alpha now are we included for the Beta too or only for Alpha tests?

Your a tester until the game goes live.

[Slyth]

yah but during installation you are promp to choose a region and language. my asumption was if i choose the NA Region i would be testing during the NA time. I guess from what you are saying, i have to choose EU because i was chosen for the EU tests?

[Loaar]

yah but during installation you are promp to choose a region and language. my asumption was if i choose the NA Region i would be testing during the NA time. I guess from what you are saying, i have to choose EU because i was chosen for the EU tests?

Language just affects in game localisation stuff. Your login info is what matters, and your login info is EU region.

[Slyth]

Language just affects in game localisation stuff. Your login info is what matters, and your login info is EU region.

ok thanks guys...

[zeu]

Where's that from?
Seems a bit out of nowhere.. and too good to be true :\

As Kalisa pointed out for me, the information came from the data files. I'm not really concerned with credit but I do intend on finding myself in a position to bring everyone news, information, and media for the duration of this game's life. Unofficial information will stop in due time. I chose the class list because it was discussed months ago and had way too much speculation on abbreviations and skills. Though it is too bad the information that goes with that image was also not shared.. For those curious there's a certain group that has that information, almost brings back memories of Fight Club.


In regards to equipping any ability from any class, on any class; There are both abilities higher than the rank cap and abilities for unimplemented classes that are class-specific. The data's structure would also allow different requirements, such as Disc. of Magic or Disc. of War (Heavy), not just Disc. of War & Magic. We'll have to see what Square Enix does down the road whether or not restrictions will be applied or potencies altered for abilities not native to your active class.

[brand]

Language just affects in game localisation stuff. Your login info is what matters, and your login info is EU region.

Just going to go and confirm this. Doesn't matter what language you install in, or choose in the config to boot in; your log in time is based from whichever region your account is.