FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread II: Let's Speculate the Speculations

[bluestar]

The bold part of the quote you were talking about is a response to a question that stated after they were done with character progression. Meaning, invites wouldn't be until after they have wiped once, set new plan in, tested, wiped again, and add servers.

yeah that is exactly why i left the whole post up there - bold part was just to point out to those earlier in the thread about more invites going out as to when that happens

so i guess to be more clear

the next thing we should see is a full character wipe

when servers come up, lvling up should be at a different rate

then another character wipe

this will probably be when more invites come out - and then more than 1 server

[Vitglance]

If it's not too much trouble, I have a question for Alpha.

I'd heard some mutterings to the effect of; dyes don't dye differing types of armor the exact same color. Is this true? If so, what is the definition of 'type of armor' (set, made of specific ingredients, general material?)

I'm having a hard time believing they'd implement the only dye system in the history of MMOs that made your clothing match less. Then again, I am enough of a bitter cynic to not exactly put it past them.

[Katlan]

^ FFXIV has dye's? This is news to me

[Loaar]

If it's not too much trouble, I have a question for Alpha.

I'd heard some mutterings to the effect of; dyes don't dye differing types of armor the exact same color. Is this true? If so, what is the definition of 'type of armor' (set, made of specific ingredients, general material?)

I'm having a hard time believing they'd implement the only dye system in the history of MMOs that made your clothing match less. Then again, I am enough of a bitter cynic to not exactly put it past them.

Have yet to see it in action but I think I found an NPC that sells dyes during this test, will have to look into it some more next time. SE did mention in an interview that dyes would look different on different gear types. I assumed they mean say, red dye would look a different shade of red on sheep's leather items to raptor leather items, which makes sense.

[Jinko]

For different gear colour's check this.

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http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1492/geary.jpg

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http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9819/headgear.jpg

Bare in mind this is just the starting gear, so there will be a lot of combinations in the final game.

[Kachi]

If it's not too much trouble, I have a question for Alpha.

I'd heard some mutterings to the effect of; dyes don't dye differing types of armor the exact same color. Is this true? If so, what is the definition of 'type of armor' (set, made of specific ingredients, general material?)

I'm having a hard time believing they'd implement the only dye system in the history of MMOs that made your clothing match less. Then again, I am enough of a bitter cynic to not exactly put it past them.

The dyes are just preset reskins of the armor, looks like. Not all of the reskins for "red dye" match, but the red reskin for leather breastplate probably matches the red reskin for leather trousers. It won't match the red reskin for cotton robes, which probably doesn't matter to you anyway.

[Vitglance]

Ah, so it differs on an ingredient to ingredient basis?
And because it's a whole different texture file, you can't dye different pieces of the armor different colors?

I suppose it's a little early to lament the return of the 'fashion vs. function' conflict, as set bonuses and customizable armor are still far flung possibilities. Still, the likelihood the status quo will neatly settle itself on things that just so happen to made of the same ingredient is pretty dismal.

/sigh
How does someone manage to go to so much trouble just to completely miss the point?

[Loaar]

Ah, so it differs on an ingredient to ingredient basis?
And because it's a whole different texture file, you can't dye different pieces of the armor different colors?

I suppose it's a little early to lament the return of the 'fashion vs. function' conflict, as set bonuses and customizable armor are still far flung possibilities. Still, the likelihood the status quo will neatly settle itself on things that just so happen to made of the same ingredient is pretty dismal.

/sigh
How does someone manage to go to so much trouble just to completely miss the point?

I'm not sure what your getting at here?

Crafters (it looks like) will be able to make different coloured items by using different mats or doing different things while making them (not 100% sure, speculation to a degree).

Items you dye in game will look different colours depending on what the base item is. This makes complete sense, since metal dyed red would look a different shade of red to cloth dyed red.

What do you have an issue with?

[Vitglance]

I can answer that, but first,
Lemme make sure we're on the same page.

Are we talking a specific type of ingredient like Adamant that might be used for a few sets during a couple levels, or the broad overarching category of Metal that includes a vast multitude of armor pieces across all levels?

[Jinko]

I think a lot of plate armour would be more like painted anyway, its not like you can dye it.

Who knows they may have different colouring agents for each material type.

[Corrderio]

For different gear colour's check this.

Spoiler: show

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1492/geary.jpg

Spoiler: show

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9819/headgear.jpg

Bare in mind this is just the starting gear, so there will be a lot of combinations in the final game.

Holy shit that's hot. One of those remind me of COR relic in a way.

EDIT: Also, I think I could make something that looks like Link's equipment from Twilight Princess with what you showed minus the hat.

[Ghostsix.Midgard]

server crashing, 3rd time so far.

[xopher]

Yep. Looks like it just came back up though.

[Kaslo]

Everyone was wearing fingerless gloves.

[xopher]

I saw a spanish guy doing the bartman.

[Celeras]

MAKE A BATTLE REGIMEN VIDEO

I shall continue to post in all caps every alpha event until this happens.

[Spira]

the server is spamming 30002 errors

[xopher]

server has crashed 5 times in the past 10 minutes. doing a guildleve is pointless since they fail you if you get logged out.

[Tyrath]

I once again can't move upon getting in or do anything other than open chat thing. I wonder if it has to do with me playing on a laptop with no numpad

[Nash]

I once again can't move upon getting in or do anything other than open chat thing. I wonder if it has to do with me playing on a laptop with no numpad

You should be able to move with WASD.

Try pressing Alt or Alt+Enter, might fix it if you've been alt tabbing during the log-in process.