FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread II: Let's Speculate the Speculations

[Charismatic]

Ugh. So I finally found out how Refill works with Archer after all this time, and boy do I feel HERPDERPish. =/

Refill fills up your equipped ammo (Your quiver) with the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped. So underwhelmed now.

Wow, that's fucking lame.

[Shadowcatt]

FFXI beta was good and fun.

this isn't beta

[Kirb]

FFXI beta was good and fun.

And to the teen comment. I was past the teens when FFXI beta happened.

Wasn't calling you a teen, just that countless teens before you have come to the same realization.

And this isn't beta. The XI beta, like most modern 'betas,' was more of a marketing tool and less of stress/balance test.

MAKE A BATTLE REGIMEN VIDEO

This I want to see this

Refill fills up your equipped ammo (Your quiver) with the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped. So underwhelmed now.

Haha, oh wow.

On the other hand, I guess the ability to endlessly spawn arrows doesn't really make sense in a game with such a strong emphasis on crafting consumables. Still, lol.

[Metafox]

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Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I've got to say, are they really going to make our characters wear tight pants? I see no comfortable legwear there.

[Zeb]

Picked up 100 attribute points upon getting level 8

[Kyrra]

Picked up 100 attribute points upon getting level 8

Thanks for the info Zeb. Do you know how much you got for any of the previous levels? Has it been going up by 5 every level?

[Kirb]

Picked up 100 attribute points upon getting level 8

Huh. So every x levels you get a big boost of attribute points?

[Hyan]

I know the alpha test isn't here for us to "enjoy". But they should at least try to make it to the point that it's not frustratingly bad.

I don't think I'm going to participate in the tests much more until CB1.

Awesome, hopefully more people think like you so the game will be absolute shit.

I'll be blaming you.

[Loaar]

FFXI beta was good and fun.

And to the teen comment. I was past the teens when FFXI beta happened.

1. This is an alpha not a beta. Massive difference.

2. The FFXI beta was a game that was already live in japan for a year. You were basically testing localisation changes. Its not even close to a real beta test.

[Hyan]

Is he saying he played the NA FFXI beta?

Holy shit, I don't know what to say..

[Loaar]

Thanks for the info Zeb. Do you know how much you got for any of the previous levels? Has it been going up by 5 every level?

Level 2 -70 points
Level 3 - 75 points
Level 4 - 75 points
Level 5 - 75 points
Level 6 - ?? points
Level 7 - ?? points
Level 8 - 100? points

I'm not sure on 6 + 7 but it seems to go up in blocks after a few levels rather than increments every level.

[Khamsin]

Ugh. So I finally found out how Refill works with Archer after all this time, and boy do I feel HERPDERPish. =/

Refill fills up your equipped ammo (Your quiver) with the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped. So underwhelmed now.

So it creates new arrows out of thin air of the same type as what you already have? Not so bad, can't expect them to allow you to create arrows of types you don't have yet in your inventory.

I can see RMTs abusing this now, though. Put expensive arrows in your inventory, then use Refill to create arrows of the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped (the expensive ones).

Still, better than simply being a means of transferring arrows from your inventory to your quiver without actually creating new ones. Wouldn't have put it past SE to do that, so it's still a pleasant surprise.

[Loaar]

So it creates new arrows out of thin air of the same type as what you already have? Not so bad, can't expect them to allow you to create arrows of types you don't have yet in your inventory.

I can see RMTs abusing this now, though. Put expensive arrows in your inventory, then use Refill to create arrows of the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped (the expensive ones).

Still, better than simply being a means of transferring arrows from your inventory to your quiver without actually creating new ones. Wouldn't have put it past SE to do that, so it's still a pleasant surprise.

I'm a little confused about how this works (some conflicting info or I'm reading it wrong), but the simple fix to your RMT problem is to make arrows created by refill bound to the player.

[roippi]

Er wait. Does it create new arrows or just auto-move arrows from your inventory? The former seems turbo-controller bottable and the latter seems turbo worthless.

[Rocl]

Level 2 -70 points
Level 3 - 75 points
Level 4 - 75 points
Level 5 - 75 points
Level 6 - ?? points
Level 7 - ?? points
Level 8 - 100? points

I'm not sure on 6 + 7 but it seems to go up in blocks after a few levels rather than increments every level.

6&7 are 75 points each.

Refill just re-organizes your arrows it looks like now

[Zeb]

So it creates new arrows out of thin air of the same type as what you already have? Not so bad, can't expect them to allow you to create arrows of types you don't have yet in your inventory.

I can see RMTs abusing this now, though. Put expensive arrows in your inventory, then use Refill to create arrows of the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped (the expensive ones).

Still, better than simply being a means of transferring arrows from your inventory to your quiver without actually creating new ones. Wouldn't have put it past SE to do that, so it's still a pleasant surprise.

Er wait. Does it create new arrows or just auto-move arrows from your inventory? The former seems turbo-controller bottable and the latter seems turbo worthless.

It does NOT create new ammo. It just adds unequipped ammo in your inv to your equipped ammo. So you don't need to go to passive mode to equip ammo.

*EDIT*
Also underwhelmed on Archer's abilites so far. Att up ability doesn't work with puncture or multishot, so it's pretty useless. 250tp emnity down next shot ability seems useless. AoE WS and shadowbind will probably have some uses later though. SE needs to rethink the delay on abilities that aren't attacks. It shouldn't cost a whole attack round to use refill.

[Zeb]

Also on the attribute front, it went from 4 points per attribute to 5 points at 41-> 42.

I'm only doing STR/VIT/DEX/AGI/LCK and some HP currently.

[Satyr]

MAKE A BATTLE REGIMEN VIDEO

This I want to see this

Me and a friend did group to test the battle regiement, I must say its not easy at first, I would like to see sqaure add a tutorial on how to use it properly.

aside from that my marauder got bloodbath(i think thats what it was called) at rank 7 finally a way torestore HP during a battle!

[Khamsin]

Oh, I read it as filling your quiver with the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped.

Refill fills...Your quiver...with the same ammo type you have in your inventory that is not equipped.

But not specifically the actual arrows, themselves. Just creating arrows of the same type that you already have.

Well, at least it's not an RMT moneymaking tool anymore.

[Jinko]

You can't manualy equip extra arrows during battle, so you have to use refill, but you have to have the arrows in your inventory for the skill to work.

It doesn't make arrows out of thin air.