FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread II: Let's Speculate the Speculations

**Alderaan** · 2010-05-17 22:01

Originally Posted by Agito

I would just like to blurt out that things will drastically change from now (alpha) to a later version of the beta when things are set in stone. There's already stuff out there that says the battle system is "pathetic" and "extremely slow". This is supposed to be hidden from everyones eyes for this very reason, so nobody would judge the alpha/beta as the finished product as so many people are doing with the leaked videos. Anyway, continue, this stigma will change i guess when everyone gets to see FFXIV in all of it's glory. I'm not saying anything bad about the leaks as i enjoy those myself, i just don't like people judging the current as finalized.

There's an article on another forum reiterating that the JP's think the combat is terrible and don't like it at all. Judging by some of the dev feedback and responses to certain questions, i have a feeling that they're a bit shocked.

Also, has anyone been able to create a guild or is that option not available yet? If so, how is it handled on screen, with a colored dot again or basic text? Or even better, with wicked capes with guild logos?

**Loaar** · 2010-05-17 22:33

Originally Posted by Alderaan

There's an article on another forum reiterating that the JP's think the combat is terrible and don't like it at all. Judging by some of the dev feedback and responses to certain questions, i have a feeling that they're a bit shocked.

Also, has anyone been able to create a guild or is that option not available yet? If so, how is it handled on screen, with a colored dot again or basic text? Or even better, with wicked capes with guild logos?

Dev feedback?

Can you link the other forum?

There are no guild/linkshells available in the alpha build.

**Balthasar** · 2010-05-17 22:47

This is a random question: Someone had posted the FFXIV translated alphabet somewhere on here but I can't find it. If someone could link me to it, it would be appreciated

**Lucavi** · 2010-05-17 22:50

Originally Posted by Alderaan

There's an article on another forum reiterating that the JP's think the combat is terrible and don't like it at all. Judging by some of the dev feedback and responses to certain questions, i have a feeling that they're a bit shocked.

What do they want? Slower combat? Faster combat? You can't get much slower than FFXI, but too fast and they'd call it twitch combat.

**Hyan** · 2010-05-17 23:20

Originally Posted by Lucavi

What do they want? Slower combat? Faster combat? You can't get much slower than FFXI, but too fast and they'd call it twitch combat.

It's just new to them, and new is such a scary thing.

They're most likely judging the system either from WoW/LOTRO/Aion/etc. combat's standpoint- in which case it would suck to have slow combat indeed, or from FFXI standpoint- in which case you'd be bored because there's not much to do during the fights. I'd understand what they mean since yeah, the combat isn't as fleshed out right now as it could be. Only few skills to rotate, mobs have so little hp that you don't really have to think about what skill to use, you never run out of mp during the beginning leves so you don't have to think about which spell to use either.. direction and position don't matter either, due to people just soloing or the latency making it too hard to determine where exactly the mob is at the time.

But it's quite sad that JP's apparently lack the ability to think ahead.

I haven't noticed such a backlash over here- and tbh you'd expect this site to be the first to complain if the combat system holds no promise. I dunno what the JP's are smoking.

**ScGr** · 2010-05-17 23:24

Originally Posted by meonline

Dev feedback?

Can you link the other forum?

Its just a rumor. You should see how ridiculous the article in question is that started this. Its obvious that neither english or japanese is the first language of the articles writer.

"FFXIV Criticized for too dull combats"

The only "Dev feedback" we've seen is Komoto/Tanaka saying that most JP players send them regular bug reports in an encouraging manner, while most NA players send them fanfics about how they think the game should be played, designed, and developed. Nothing about being shocked at "dull combats".

A few posts above me there is more dev feedback from the alpha forum telling people to focus on Hand/Land.

**Corrderio** · 2010-05-17 23:39

Originally Posted by ScGr

Its just a rumor. You should see how ridiculous the article in question is that started this. Its obvious that neither english or japanese is the first language of the articles writer.

"FFXIV Criticized for too dull combats"

The only "Dev feedback" we've seen is Komoto/Tanaka saying that most JP players send them regular bug reports in an encouraging manner, while most NA players send them fanfics about how they think the game should be played, designed, and developed. Nothing about being shocked at "dull combats".

A few posts above me there is more dev feedback from the alpha forum telling people to focus on Hand/Land.

Am I the only one who wants to choke the people who write these articles about people criticizing a game still in development?

**Loaar** · 2010-05-17 23:58

Originally Posted by Corrderio

Am I the only one who wants to choke the people who write these articles about people criticizing a game still in development?

Nope. Epecially when the article is written so poorly written as that.

I had to lol @ the the "quotes" in the article as well. No reference to where the quotes came from, or even if the person he is quoting has any idea what they are talking about, or are just responding to something someone else posted....

**Satyr** · 2010-05-18 00:11

Originally Posted by Balthasar

This is a random question: Someone had posted the FFXIV translated alphabet somewhere on here but I can't find it. If someone could link me to it, it would be appreciated

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/289/decoderring.jpg
saved from someone who posted it ona website or maybe in this thread back a bit.

**Spira** · 2010-05-18 00:51

http://www.ffxivmaps.com/

scroll down.

**Calemero** · 2010-05-18 05:48

Originally Posted by Spira

scroll down.

I think I love you...

**Zeno** · 2010-05-18 06:26

Whew! Nice link you got thar! =) thanks.

And man, maps are HUGE. No wonder the majority of transportation will be via...well, transporting...lol

**Ghostsix.Midgard** · 2010-05-18 06:29

Originally Posted by Hyan

They're most likely judging the system either from WoW/LOTRO/Aion/etc.

JP actually play these?!

**Hyan** · 2010-05-18 06:37

Originally Posted by Ghostsix.Midgard

JP actually play these?!

Complaints are most likely based on XI's standpoint and not those, yeah

It's very farfetched to say the combat is worse than XI's, but I could see why they think it's too similar to it, and considering they're all existing XI players, it's no surprise they'd want to see something new. Still, they're not thinking ahead ;(.

**Scardydog** · 2010-05-18 06:43

Originally Posted by Zeno

Whew! Nice link you got thar! =) thanks.

And man, maps are HUGE. No wonder the majority of transportation will be via...well, transporting...lol

I actually liked running places in FFXI, sure I used the telepoints and stuff, but whenever I had time (and not in a rush to meet up with a party or friends) I would run. You never knew what you find along the way.

Huge maps sound great to me....I love to explore. But looking at the maps there, even I'm a bit over awed. Is that the expected size of the whole world (the first map)? I assume the rest of the starter towns will be placed somewhere on Aldenard?

**Hyan** · 2010-05-18 06:50

Originally Posted by Scardydog

Huge maps sound great to me....I love to explore. But looking at the maps there, even I'm a bit over awed. Is that the expected size of the whole world (the first map)? I assume the rest of the starter towns will be placed somewhere on Aldenard?

Yeah, that's the world for now. There's 5 cities in total and +-4 more "regions" like the one surrounding Limsa Lominsa will be introduced in the retail version (assuming La Noscea is 20% of the world's size like the devs said).

**Zeno** · 2010-05-18 07:28

Ah, don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to sound like Huge world maps is a problem. I do too enjoy exploring huge vast areas. I remember in FFXI exploring Yhat/Yhoat Jungles for the 1st time. I got lost so many times and still do to this day. lol.

**Loaar** · 2010-05-18 07:50

Originally Posted by Hyan

Yeah, that's the world for now. There's 5 cities in total and +-4 more "regions" like the one surrounding Limsa Lominsa will be introduced in the retail version (assuming La Noscea is 20% of the world's size like the devs said).

After reading a few interviews talking about how much is in the alpha, I'm not sure if its 20% of the world and 10% of the content or 10% of the world and 20% of the content.

**nekoshoonen** · 2010-05-18 07:51

I get lost in my moghouse...

**HolyDragoon** · 2010-05-18 08:16

The size of the world looks to be fine really (thus far)
It should be large, look at XI. Look how big everything was at the beginning. Think way back at level 10, no subs. It took 15 minutes just to reach the dunes. Let alone get there and set up a party to fight with.

Assuming 4+- regions in XIV and the current size of the α, I think we have nothing to worry about.

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