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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    Written or oral means nothing.

    I would think stealing meats the requirements of nuisance or unlawful activity though. Boot him out in 3 days. Even if he were to bring a case at law against you, equity would in your favor no doubt.
    I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in California procedure, but as someone who owns property and rents it in NY, there is an expected burden of proof for our equivalent statute to the 3-day notice, i.e. you can't quickly evict someone on the SUSPICION of theft, the police have to at least investigate and bring charges(even if they're dropped).

    Whether that's the case in most states I don't know.

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    Ok, 30 Days... Obviously I'm trying to avoid this while also avoiding any huge repercussions. (Cop involvement, lawyers, etc.)

    If when I see and talk to this person, I'd think I'd try to get a confession out of him. If I'm able, then we'd talk his moving out.

    IF I'm able to get him to AGREE to move out in a much sooner fashion, would this be legal and backlash free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rombot View Post
    Ok, 30 Days... Obviously I'm trying to avoid this while also avoiding any huge repercussions. (Cop involvement, lawyers, etc.)

    If when I see and talk to this person, I'd think I'd try to get a confession out of him. If I'm able, then we'd talk his moving out.

    IF I'm able to get him to AGREE to move out in a much sooner fashion, would this be legal and backlash free?
    If the tenant voluntarily moves out then there are no repercussions unless he leaves items there, once he has formally moved out, make sure you find anything left-over of his(if anything) and notify him, and then toss it out onto the curb(or whatever the rule for this in california is).

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    well, if you COULD I'd boot him out without any notice at all. If he was behind on rent or something it would be a different issue but considering he's stolen from you (and the argument that it was only a few games is irrelevant. This could be the only thing he's stolen, and it could also be the only thing you've NOTICED he's stolen.) I would absolutely want him out asap to avoid providing him the opportunity of stealing anything more on his way out. You don't fire an employee on Monday morning and tell him he's done on Friday at 5- you can him and send him home immediately.

    If you really do have to wait 30 days, I would take a few actions prior to telling him he's out. If he has all or mostly separate living space I would add locks to your private areas or secure valuable items. If the living space is mostly shared you could take a video of your possessions to keep as proof of their presence/working order or even mark them permanently in some fashion.

    I'm not saying the guy is a hardened thief. But he stole from you once, and he could easily do it again. Getting kicked out would only provide some motive to dick you over.

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    shit on his car and punch him in the nuts. (after you kick him out)

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    You said he was a long term friend? Why can't you just talk to him about it? You shouldn't have to deal with this crap in your own house.

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    http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/l...k/catenant.pdf

    Enjoy 124 pages where there is most likely an answer or at least some sort of guideline. - I did take a look at the oral rent agreements and yes btw it is a lease so people who say it's not are wrong as others have stated.

    However, if he's a friend and you want to avoid drama - just say you're sorry but you want to do something else with the room and you need him out in X amount of time (3 days is REALLY harsh). It hopefully won't get him pissed off at you so he won't feel like he needs to steal your crap before he leaves. Yes, you need to change the locks though.

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    Value of a theft doesn't matter. If you are the victim of a crime and report it, the police must legally take a case. However the amount of attention they give it will probably vary depending on the amount, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alt View Post
    Value of a theft doesn't matter. If you are the victim of a crime and report it, the police must legally take a case. However the amount of attention they give it will probably vary depending on the amount, etc.
    Ya, its called a police report. You can go into any location station, tell a officer at the front desk and get a piece of paper with department letterhead. Something like this, they will probably not even foward to detectives to investigate and advise the person to file claims in housing court.

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    Yeah the attention they give to it will vary depending on the circumstances. They may even almost immediately close the case for lack of evidence, etc. But they are not supposed to be able to refuse to take a report/case.

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    Call the cops on him for stealing your shit, then pitch his shit out while he's out, change locks, win.

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    I'd give him a week, tops. If it wasn't out in a week, he'd come home to changed locks and his shit on the curb. Break my trust, you're lucky I don't break your shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abandon View Post
    I'd give him a week, tops. If it wasn't out in a week, he'd come home to changed locks and his shit on the curb. Break my trust, you're lucky I don't break your shit.
    Unfortunetly we live in America, where your tenant can sue you for doing that(and win...easily).

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