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  1. #881
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    @ Botosi, your sets are very standard. Make an aggressor down and aggressor up set. i.e. when aggressor is up you can TP in another body, maybe zahak's or that new mail and bomb core instead of bomblet. Etc etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinBandura View Post
    @ Botosi, your sets are very standard. Make an aggressor down and aggressor up set. i.e. when aggressor is up you can TP in another body, maybe zahak's or that new mail and bomb core instead of bomblet. Etc etc etc.
    Hmmmk, looks like I gotta buy a bomb core. Do you think that the +5% on Crit hits outweighs the +15 Attack and +15 Acc on Ebody though? I could see Ares's being better than Ebody with Aggressor up, but I dunno about Zahak's.

    Edit to 1st Post: Also I forgot to post that I swap in Vampire Earrings/Cassie Earring depending on Warrior's Charge and night time for Steel Cyclone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Botosi View Post
    Finally got my Ares's Cuirass this morning so figured I'd post it here to see if anyone has any suggestions.

    http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2743/warriorl.png

    That's a V.Belt and a Strigoi Ring in 4 + 5.

    1) Normal TP Gear
    2) TP gear when I feel I need the accuracy.
    3) Dual Weilding TP gear
    4) Raging Rush Set
    5) Steel Cyclone Set
    6) Rampage Set
    rc build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerlic View Post
    So I pulled up my spreadsheet and apparently I had never accounted for ACC from food which is why I had Ace's Helm in my Polearm TP set. I always thought it was odd how GKT had so much more acc than Polearm according to my calculations. Oops. Thanks for the tips about the grips/feet.


    Usu Feet + Haub +1 vs. Usu Body + Fuma translates to 6 Acc and 18 Att vs. 2 Str, 2 Dex, 1 haste. Wouldn't the second one be better?
    Only if you have double march, hasso, haste spell, haste samba, and are attack capped via angon/dia 3 >.>.

    Haste is AWESOME, but 6 acc (3% hit rate) and 18 attack > it. And in before "lol but you dont need acc". If you dont need that extra 6 acc, swap out culc for cerb+1 or other rings/neck/etc.

    The fuma argument is semantics and is superior is -very- rare situations and marginally superior even then. There is no reason to own them if you own Usu Feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Botosi View Post
    Finally got my Ares's Cuirass this morning so figured I'd post it here to see if anyone has any suggestions.
    For your higher-acc tp set you might use blitz and chuchu mantle instead of sniper+1 and cerb+1, at least in higher-haste situations. I'm not a math person but I'd assume with your gear 1% haste and some dex outweighs the attack on cerb. Also what are the augs on that axe? I've been thinking about replacing my perdu but idk if its worth the effort.

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    @ Botosi - no KJ set?

    @ fingerspitz - Elrking's can beat Perdu, but for the amount of effort/chance of it I'd sooner just camp NMs and work on a Bonesplitter (dmg 100).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerspitz View Post
    For your higher-acc tp set you might use blitz and chuchu mantle instead of sniper+1 and cerb+1, at least in higher-haste situations. I'm not a math person but I'd assume with your gear 1% haste and some dex outweighs the attack on cerb. Also what are the augs on that axe? I've been thinking about replacing my perdu but idk if its worth the effort.
    The price on Cuch Mantle has been going down steadily so I've been waiting to buy it. As for my Gaxe the Augments are Dmg +5 Str+3 Atk+5. Not the best, but better than Perdu for sure I'd say.

    @ Residue, maybe I'm just blanking out or tired, but what's an RC build? >_>;;
    @ Dooom, honestly don't even have KJ unlocked lol. I'm a big fan of RR and SC depending on the situation I'm in. I use ridill in Einherjar and I don't really merit ever so I haven't seen a big use for KJ.

    Edit 2: oh rune chopper >_>;;

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    RC build = Rune Chopper build.

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    the only build that actually matters build

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    KC is great for any time you wanna lay a fucking super buffed "where did that truck come from, oh it's a zerg buffed 2hring warrior laying into my ass, dammit all" type beating on something.

    Bonesplitter, Dmg 100 is sextastic, but I'd wait to see what options pop up at 80, though that's a decent Kheten, but I wouldn't be able to settle for less than Dmg +6 Str +5 DA +2% now that there's a Dmg 100 gaxe around.

    I'm finding it hard to see times when, short of Bravura, you'd prefer Cerb +1 over Cuch full time. 20 Att vs 4 Dex 5 Acc, would you TP in O.Kotes or Enkidu hands (assuming you had no haste option/could trade for haste gear elsewhere)?


    RC setup, well, with latent + 4 slots you can cap haste, pick the 4 you don't have good non-haste choices in, go to town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    I'm finding it hard to see times when, short of Bravura, you'd prefer Cerb +1 over Cuch full time. 20 Att vs 4 Dex 5 Acc, would you TP in O.Kotes or Enkidu hands (assuming you had no haste option/could trade for haste gear elsewhere)?
    Warrior gets so many sexy accuracy options though without giving up much at all. If you don't need the acc from Cuchu, why would you use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Only if you have double march, hasso, haste spell, haste samba, and are attack capped via angon/dia 3 >.>.

    Haste is AWESOME, but 6 acc (3% hit rate) and 18 attack > it. And in before "lol but you dont need acc". If you dont need that extra 6 acc, swap out culc for cerb+1 or other rings/neck/etc.

    The fuma argument is semantics and is superior is -very- rare situations and marginally superior even then. There is no reason to own them if you own Usu Feet.
    Considering attack during TP phase only applies to roughly 30% of your damage, and the 1 haste applies to all of your damage, having my doubts that the attack from haub+1 and cerb+1 would win

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    Yeah pretty much, especially on GK SAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Only if you have double march, hasso, haste spell, haste samba, and are attack capped via angon/dia 3 >.>.

    Haste is AWESOME, but 6 acc (3% hit rate) and 18 attack > it. And in before "lol but you dont need acc". If you dont need that extra 6 acc, swap out culc for cerb+1 or other rings/neck/etc.

    The fuma argument is semantics and is superior is -very- rare situations and marginally superior even then. There is no reason to own them if you own Usu Feet.
    This again? how many time will you argue, you lost this argument a few weeks back already. Stop claiming whatever you want w/o proof. It is already commonly accepted that pole+fumas is stricly superior tu sword+usu feet if you cap accuracy. It's not +18 attack, but +9-10 attack because usu body has more strength, and dusk feet+1 exist.

    0.5 fSTR, 2% double attack 1% haste versus -3% delay 9.5 attack ( ignoring the accuracy difference). The first set up *easilly win* ( -3% delay is almost exactly the same as 1% haste if you have marches+haste+hasso+good haste gear btw).

    Even with fumas instead of dusk+1:

    with pizza and 450 base attack, +16 attack from usu feet+ hauby+1 would be only

    (466/300-0.35)/(450/300-0.35)= +4.5% increase in cRation( 7 level correction, mob with 300 def(diaII ))


    which reminds me:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mexichu View Post
    Considering attack during TP phase only applies to roughly 30% of your damage, and the 1 haste applies to all of your damage, having my doubts that the attack from haub+1 and cerb+1 would win
    No, only an afk sam or a sam that's not getting hastes and marches has only 30% melee damage. In the above situation ( haste marches hasso), even with hagun, you're between 35% and 40% melee damage actually.

    This means +4.5% melee dmg is like +1.6% global damage or something. 2% double attack already beats that. Which proves that you don't even need to have haste and double marches and hasso for pole+fumas to win ( I hear that a lot..). Im too lazy to compute the inflection point, it's probably somewhere around 50% haste ( versus 65%) you just need to have haste spell, haste gear and one marches or hasso to reach that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mexichu View Post
    Considering attack during TP phase only applies to roughly 30% of your damage, and the 1 haste applies to all of your damage, having my doubts that the attack from haub+1 and cerb+1 would win
    I'm not sure I believe War has a 30/70 TP/WS split, even as /Sam. For /Nin at least it is 50/50, so attack in the TP phase is still important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    I'm not sure I believe War has a 30/70 TP/WS split, even as /Sam. For /Nin at least it is 50/50, so attack in the TP phase is still important.
    I was talking about sam. Thought it was obvious, since the post i quoted mentioned usu feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
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    0.5 fSTR, 2% double attack 1% haste versus -3% delay 9.5 attack ( ignoring the accuracy difference). The first set up *easilly win* ( -3% delay is almost exactly the same as 1% haste if you have marches+haste+hasso+good haste gear btw).

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    You god damned fucking idiot. You do this in every thread. Go the fuck away.

    It isnt .5fSTR 2% DA 1% haste vs -3% delay 9.5 attack, because we arent fucking talking about Usu Feet + Hauby + Sword strap, because you lose your fucking 6 hit with that.

    The combinations are (to keep your 6 hit): (and please get it this time you illiterate fuck)

    Hauby+1 + Pole Grip + Usu feet: 2% DA, 5 more acc, 7 STP, 9.5 attack over other sets. (The set I mentioned, please try and keep up)

    Usu body + Usu feet + Sword strap: 3% delay, 7 more acc

    Fuma + Usu body + Pole grip. 1% haste, and .5 fSTR...

    So no, you're wrong: EVEN WITH CAPPED ACC. You were proven wrong last time. You are wrong this time. Go fuck yourself.

    Edit: and if you want to pull the "let's ignore acc" bullshit, then the Usu feet, Hauby+1, and pole grip setup works EVEN BETTER because you can swap out your back from culc to cerb+ for even more DoT increase. Seriously, go fuck yourself and stop polluting these threads with your ridiculous bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    You god damned fucking idiot. You do this in every thread. Go the fuck away.

    It isnt .5fSTR 2% DA 1% haste vs -3% delay 9.5 attack, because we arent fucking talking about Usu Feet + Hauby + Sword strap, because you lose your fucking 6 hit with that.

    The combinations are (to keep your 6 hit): (and please get it this time you illiterate fuck)

    Hauby+1 + Pole Grip + Usu feet: 2% DA, 5 more acc, 7 STP, 9.5 attack over other sets. (The set I mentioned, please try and keep up)

    Usu body + Usu feet + Sword strap: 3% delay, 7 more acc

    Fuma + Usu body + Pole grip. 1% haste, and .5 fSTR...

    So no, you're wrong: EVEN WITH CAPPED ACC. You were proven wrong last time. You are wrong this time. Go fuck yourself.

    Edit: and if you want to pull the "let's ignore acc" bullshit, then the Usu feet, Hauby+1, and pole grip setup works EVEN BETTER because you can swap out your back from culc to cerb+ for even more DoT increase. Seriously, go fuck yourself and stop polluting these threads with your ridiculous bullshit.
    umad. my bad i was confusing gear sets. then, recap:

    you think that

    Hauby+1 + usu feet is better than

    usu body+ fumas

    both set ups using polegrip. your more retarded than I thought because:

    A: usu body + sword strap+ usu feet
    B: hauby+1+ pole grip + usu feet
    C: usubody + pole grip + fumas;

    you know, since A>B( know for long), and C>A , C>B. So the difference is indeed a ridiculous amount of attack verus 1% haste, lol. This cannot win ever.

    I was waiting you to pull out the uncapped accuracy argument. Stop now , or you are going to prove here on BG that onimaru beats hagun.

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    Except C isnt greater than A. Which is the point.

    Go away. You're wrong, you're always wrong.

    Go back to TPing in strength rings and thinking brds suck in salvage with Pchan.

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    Or you could link it, since you were in the last thread this was brought up too.

    And the math is in this thread.

    Hauby+1 + Pole Grip + Usu feet: 2% DA, 5 more acc, 7 STP, 9.5 attack over other sets. (The set I mentioned, please try and keep up)

    Usu body + Usu feet + Sword strap: 3% delay, 7 more acc

    Fuma + Usu body + Pole grip. 1% haste, and .5 fSTR...

    There are almost no conditions where .5fSTR and 1% haste beat 5 more acc, 9.5 attack

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