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  1. #1161
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddha_masta View Post
    Can you map out this particular build plz Neo? Looks to me you'd have to WS in Usu body and Hachiman Sune-ate probably, so losing out on a few STR in body and feet as well.

    I'm seeing 20.1 tp per hit in tp phase w/ Usu body & feet, Rose, White Tath, Rajas, Brutal, so needing 19.6 return in WS (at least 26 sTP--requiring sTP body and feet during WS).

    Correct me if I'm off plz. I'm really interested in this potential 5-hit, but I'll probably be eating pizza and subbing Usu body (no have) for Askar Korazin and... if I'd hafta WS in that body I would probably just stick to 6-hit.

    Thx
    TP: Usu body/feet/tathum/rose strap/brutal/usu feet/rajas
    WS: Usu body/Hachi feet(+1)/rose strap/brutal/rajas/thew bomblet

    Loss in DD stats during TP phase over typical 6 hit:

    ammo: 2 str/10 attack (thew bomblet)
    2% DA (pole grip, not getting into sword strap delay comparisons)

    Loss in DD stats during WS phase over typical 6 hit:
    2 str from body
    3 str from feet (using hachi instead of perle)
    2% DA from pole grip.

    About to head out the door to work, but that looks like about 3% DoT loss and 3% WS damage loss over your normal 450 delay 6 hit. But then you have to factor in 3% higher delay (464). So let's say 6% loss in in DoT, but you gain a 5 hit (about 14% more WSs).

    I'd say the 5 hit wins by a good margin. But maybe someone with more time than me can math out the specific damage values and get more a more accurate answer.

  2. #1162
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    You could WS in Domaru, too (assuming no usu body of course).

  3. #1163
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    You guys are living in the past. MNK is the way of the future and has replaced SAM in almost every aspect.

  4. #1164

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    You guys are living in the past. MNK is the way of the future and has replaced SAM in almost every aspect.
    Oh you.

  5. #1165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    You guys are living in the past. MNK is the way of the future and has replaced SAM in almost every aspect.
    perfectly countered?

    yup went there.

  6. #1166
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    Quote Originally Posted by AidenCarby View Post
    Oh you.
    It sucks being wrong, but you'll bounce back.

  7. #1167
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    Got bored after salvage, so thought I'd get feedback on my RDM.

    Spoiler: show
    http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9351/allqv.jpg

    01. Stoneskin (380)

    02. Cures
    -Misc. Stuff: Teiwaz (Cure+15)

    03. Bind/Sleep/Grav

    04. Idle
    -Not shown is that I idle in Lieutenant's Sash, but apparently not in this screen shot.

    05. MND Potency

    06. Buffs
    -Misc. Stuff: Velocious Belt.

    07. Phalanx
    -Misc. Stuff: Velocious Belt, Enhancing Torque.

    08. Nukes

    09. PDT

    10. MDT
    -Misc. Stuff: Hexerei Cape, Lieutenant's Sash, Coral +1 Legs/Feet.

    11. Utsu
    -Misc. Stuff: Velocious Belt.

    Things I'm working on.
    -Dusk Gloves +1.
    -More Morrigan's gear.
    -Patronus Ring
    -Mahatma Houppelande
    -Muse Tariqah
    -Mistilteinn



    Feel free to rip it apart~!

  8. #1168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    tare
    Patronus Ring/Darksteel Subligar+1 when your PDT isn't capped from cape?

  9. #1169
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    1) Tear.
    2) Cures: Less +mnd, more -enmity - Hedgehog Bomb, Trooper's Ring, Novia/Delta Earrings, theta sash, crow/raven/hydra.
    3) Idle: Mix of MDT/PDT? I'd make separate pdt/mdt/MP+ idle sets and idlee in which depending on the. Also: Ethreal earring
    4) AF legs for phalanx
    5) Look into 2 nuke sets, one for acc (relic legs, goli hands, etc) one for damage
    6) PDT: Alexander earring
    7) MND+5 hat if (goli etc) if you can for full potency set (ES)
    8) Ele staff + reign grip for mnd set for non full potency (things you can't use club/shield against)
    9) Full macc+ mnd set (for srsly resistand shit, and silence)

  10. #1170
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    2) Cures: Less +mnd, more -enmity - Hedgehog Bomb, Trooper's Ring, Novia/Delta Earrings, theta sash, crow/raven/hydra.
    -Good call, was caught up working on the addons for cure+ and for the mean time was just using my MND gear for lack of invitory space.

    3) Idle: Mix of MDT/PDT? I'd make separate pdt/mdt/MP+ idle sets and idlee in which depending on the. Also: Ethreal earring
    -Right now the mix is kind of just a base, and I have other idles for situation, and change depending.

    4) AF legs for phalanx
    - I should have AF legs in for phalanx, but idk why they arent must have been in locker.

    8 ) Ele staff + reign grip for mnd set for non full potency (things you can't use club/shield against)
    -Have

    9) Full macc+ mnd set (for srsly resistand shit, and silence)
    - I didnt include every set I was getting kind of lazy towards the end. I have a Macc/Skill set for MND.

  11. #1171
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    So I just decided to play again and see what level 80 is like, sold my Hagun back when for 3.5m and don't really feel like buying one to level seeing as I can get a Keito solo once I hit 80. Any other things I could work on I would love to hear.

    TP- Pretty basic, STP on weapon allows me to use Dusk, I thought this would be better than Onimaru+Hachiman Kote but if I'm wrong please correct me, this is mainly for me to learn from. Looking for a Sniper+1 but at the moment they seem to be falling in price.
    http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...706_154441.png

    WS- Amemet Mantle +1 on Y and K. Probably going to buy a Wyvern Helm+1 soon. Thew Bomblet seems to be unable to pick a real price so I will get one as soon as I can (And probably use it for TP too?)
    http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...706_154458.png

    PDT- Need askar boots and Arhats+1 head. I think theres some new items too like the earring from one of the new Summons.
    http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...706_154517.png

    Rana- I got this like a week before I last quit so its probably terrible, any help would be appreciated.
    http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...706_155108.png

    Also if there are any new items I should be keeping my eyes on (that have actually been found) please tell me.

  12. #1172
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    NPC that Rindomaru, have us critique your Tomoe build.

  13. #1173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    NPC that Rindomaru, have us critique your Tomoe build.
    I don't think I could support Polearm for leveling. I can understand on piercing weak things like Colibri but after looking at ffxicalc with pizza+1 I have 385 accuracy when using a Polearm. I'd break out the polearm for the rare Colibri/new birds of course though.

  14. #1174
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    Am I missing something or is just everyone overlooking soboro.

  15. #1175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Am I missing something or is just everyone overlooking soboro. sam sucks level mnk
    ftfy

  16. #1176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    Sec, QM'ing drops to me while I think of more witty and non-helpful things to say to people
    ftfy

  17. #1177
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    If you think telling someone to level MNK isn't helpful than you're an idiot.

    Also, lol a getting shit for QMing a goliard body against a bunch of dick heads. The person that won the lot of 900 wanted it for his BLM and SMN. At the time it was before the update, and I was getting a tanking body for RDM.

  18. #1178
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    It may be helpful in general, but not when they're asking for advice on their sam.

    I'm not disagreeing with you saying mnk is better, I'm telling you you're a fucking terrible troll.
    Also, lol at you trying to justify theft, even if the theft was as utilitarian as you make it out to be.

  19. #1179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    Doesn't make what you did right. If you didn't want to risk a BLM, SMN winning Goliard body over you then you shouldn't have joined the group. Plain and simple.

  20. #1180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    It may be helpful in general, but not when they're asking for advice on their sam.

    I'm not disagreeing with you saying mnk is better, I'm telling you you're a fucking terrible troll.
    Also, lol at you trying to justify theft, even if the theft was as utilitarian as you make it out to be.
    Do you know what a troll is? It's someone intentionally baiting someone into becoming angry or upset. Is that what I'm doing? I don't know why BG morons have some skewed idea of what a troll is. My posts are sarcastic and blunt. Does that mean I'm a troll?

    K, get off your moral high horse. It's a dog eat dog world, move the fuck on and deal with it.

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