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[Shadida]

Well I am not a ranger expert so I cant answer your questions but can I ask one of my own? How is the Gun work and what kinda of damage and weaponskill damage are we talking here. Just wondering because I interested in leveling ranger so that seems like a easy to get weapon that might come in handy.

I wouldn't suggest this gun for a new RNG - it requires some particular gear to get a 5-hit and unlock its full potential. Unless you're a THF with Skadi's Chausses, you're probably better off using an E/Vbow.

That said, the gun attacks twice on normal ranged attacks about 40-45% of the time, it doesn't attack twice on WS or Barrage. WS's are still respectable but wouldn't compare with Hellfire+1 or Annihilator - the difference is in the frequency of WS's.

[Demosthenes11]

need some advice on sam penta. idk what to do about the pants and feet mainly, but with this the set has just about the same acc as my tp set
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25...es11/penta.png

[FailureMidgard]

PUP & BLU were released at the same time as COR
SCH and DNC 2 years later

All 5 own COR.

And the only thing sillier than francemath?

...drumroll....

francelogic.

Blu is basically a pointless fun job that lets you throw pinecones up Khim's ass.
Pup isn't just basically pointless, it's only use is to go solo Diabolos. WOOHOO! There are what, exactly 0 other scenarios in the game where it's ideal to other jobs?
Sch is a joke, and I say this as someone who loves the job and has a lot of fun playing it...but really there's no point.
Dnc is at least worth talking about. Though it's pretty silly to make a blanket statement that it's better than cor.
And ya, I'm glad you admitted that cor owns cor.

[Chojja]

Sch is a joke, and I say this as someone who loves the job and has a lot of fun playing it...but really there's no point.

Disagreed. While I don't like the need of a strategem for Sleepga....gravity and bind in aoe situations should not be discounted.

[Konda]

hastega soon too!

[Dooom]

Pup isn't just basically pointless, it's only use is to go solo Diabolos. WOOHOO! .

They patched it, I thought? no fun times for pup!

[Yugl]

Pup isn't just basically pointless, it's only use is to go solo Diabolos. WOOHOO!

It's also used in 5-6man Kirin.

Sch is a joke, and I say this as someone who loves the job and has a lot of fun playing it...but really there's no point.

Duo/Trio Limbus zones.

[Fottiti]

It's also used in 5-6man Kirin.



Duo/Trio Limbus zones.

The point being made was where they were the ideal jobs. I really don't see where sch is better than a rdm or blm for solo/duo/trio in limbus.

[Snick]

hastega soon too!

WHM/SCH

Although 2 Strategems(Or do they get third at 40?) kinda blows.

[Yugl]

The point being made was where they were the ideal jobs. I really don't see where sch is better than a rdm or blm for solo/duo/trio in limbus.

For a 5-man Kirin, PUP or SMN is ideal. If I remember correctly, PUP did much better than SMN.

For Limbus, the only time BLM out does SCH is on Omega and floors where you never need to rest MP. NW may or may not force you to rest MP depending on when the vortex appears. SCH will be especially useful if you're an Elvaan or Galka. NE only requires one BLM for stunning/ES Silencing the big bird. Note that the entire zone CAN be done with 1BLM, but it's far from guaranteed, so the typical number is 2-3 members total. SW SCH excels since you don't need stun. However, access to Gravityga + Sleepga is potent when you want to zerg a fomor in the middle of the pack. In SE, RDM is best for healing/Hasting/Dia/-na or whatever is needed. For Temenos zones, simply replace BLM for each instance in which it is used outside of stun.

[Konda]

SW is best done as rdm+nin. depending on how long the former pull takes, you can be done in under 30mins.

[rog]

Note that the entire zone CAN be done with 1BLM, but it's far from guaranteed

While it's not 100%, a good blm can definitely get a decent win rate. Personally i was 3/3 on it. Admittedly, i never had to kill hyperion, and there's no chance in hell i would have won if i did, unless maybe i got portal on first nm on f1, and first roc, and then i -gad the dhalmels down in 2 sets of 4, but that would still be a stretch (possible, but unlikely). Win rate is essentially 66%, since it's fairly easy as long as you don't have to kill hyperion, which is enough that you'd be better off having 2 blms each try to solo it than have them duo it. It can be somewhat difficult, what with the fucking rocs, and potentially having to kill 2-4 dhalmels at once (which can be a bitch since they link, and if you accidentally pull more than 4, it can become 2-3 times harder), but if your blms know what they're doing, it's relatively consistent.

SW is best done as rdm+nin. depending on how long the former pull takes, you can be done in under 30mins.

Why nin? Any combination including 2 of rdm, blm, or sch can do it even faster, regardless of how long it takes to pull fomors (which can be done faster, since you've got a minimum of 4x sleeps). I suppose it makes sense if you don't have 2 mages for nw, ne, sw, and one for se, if you want to get a full pop set in a day, but i'd hardly call that best.

[Yugl]

SW is best done as rdm+nin. depending on how long the former pull takes, you can be done in under 30mins.

It's under 30min either way except you don't need to wait on the fomor if it's the last one you need to kill. Aggro + Sleepga + Gravga the rest.

While it's not 100%, a good blm can definitely get a decent win rate. Personally i was 3/3 on it. Admittedly, i never had to kill hyperion, and there's no chance in hell i would have won if i did, unless maybe i got portal on first nm on f1, and first roc, and then i -gad the dhalmels down in 2 sets of 4, but that would still be a stretch (possible, but unlikely). Win rate can definitely get over 50% i'd say, which is enough that you'd be better off having 2 blms try to solo it than duo it.

It's always the same Roc. The Roc guarding the 2hr chest is the one we always kill and get the vortex from. When I speak of ideal set ups, I hope to imply that the set up produces near guaranteed wins. That's why I mentioned, but did not emphasize BLM soloing NE.

[Thorny]

It's also used in 5-6man Kirin.

Documentation of 5man kirin somewhere? Interested.

Duo/Trio Limbus zones.

NW: BLM BLM, shouldn't need to rest unless unlucky, beats SCH
SW: RDM
NE: RDM BLM, no reason to bring a SCH over since you won't be resting that much either
SE: RDM WAR

Don't see SCH in there. If you're uncomfortable soloing SW because 1f pull is annoying for time, then bring a second person of any job to sac. SCH isn't any better for any of it than other jobs.

[Raen Ryong]

NW: BLM BLM, shouldn't need to rest unless unlucky, beats SCH
SW: RDM
NE: RDM BLM, no reason to bring a SCH over since you won't be resting that much either
SE: RDM WAR

Don't see SCH in there.

I do

[Thorny]

I do

lol

[rog]

It's always the same Roc. The Roc guarding the 2hr chest is the one we always kill and get the vortex from. When I speak of ideal set ups, I hope to imply that the set up produces near guaranteed wins. That's why I mentioned, but did not emphasize BLM soloing NE.

No it's not. It's completely random. The only thing set in stone there is that there are two groups (the closest two, and the back two). If you kill one, and it drops a chest/vortex, the other in that group will drop the other. If it drops nothing, then the other in that group will also drop nothing. Otherwise it's completely random which drops the chest/portal.

[Yugl]

Didn't you make a post about a 5/6 (One or the other) Kirin?

NW: SCH is better for races that get less utility out of full MP restored (i.e. Galka). Also, if we're going to throw out the luck component, we might as well talk about BLM and SCH both soloing it. SCH probably comes out ahead when you consider that it has a 3-4MP/tick refresh ability, which allows SCH to speed up the KB kill (Access to Parsimony as well).

NE: Depending on your luck, you may or may not need to rest MP (I would advise doing so before killing Hyperion). SCH fills the second role better than RDM because of access to Gravityga and Alacrity+Bindga that allows you to tackle main NMs in crowded areas (Mandy portion). You can sleepga them, but in that department, SCH is better for sleepga II. SCH is also better for alacrity Gravga + Bindga in the event that they wake up while killing the white mandy (MDT bonus).

SW: If you're going to bring a 2nd person, you may as well BRD+BLM/SCH the zone for a faster kill.

No it's not. It's completely random. The only thing set in stone there is that there are two groups (the closest two, and the back two). If you kill one, and it drops a chest/vortex, the other in that group will drop the other. If it drops nothing, then the other in that group will also drop nothing. Otherwise it's completely random which drops the chest/portal.

In every single run I've done, it's always been the same one. Also, they don't drop chests -- the chests are already up when they're up (That's why you can bind + grab TE). Try it next run and you'll see I'm right.

[Thorny]

Didn't you make a post about a 5/6 (One or the other) Kirin?

If you're referring to mine, the PUP was just there to compare to his (nakedish) smn. A good pup will beat a nether blast smn, but not come close to a SMN with capped skills and wind blade.

NW: SCH is better for races that get less utility out of full MP restored (i.e. Galka). Also, if we're going to throw out the luck component, we might as well talk about BLM and SCH both soloing it. SCH probably comes out ahead when you consider that it has a 3-4MP/tick refresh ability, which allows SCH to speed up the KB kill (Access to Parsimony as well).

Arguable, manafont destroys tabula, and you get to use it several times.

NE: Depending on your luck, you may or may not need to rest MP (I would advise doing so before killing Hyperion). SCH fills the second role better than RDM because of access to Gravityga and Alacrity+Bindga that allows you to tackle main NMs in crowded areas (Mandy portion). You can sleepga them, but in that department, SCH is better for sleepga II. SCH is also better for alacrity Gravga + Bindga in the event that they wake up while killing the white mandy (MDT bonus).

If you're arguing SCH + BLM over RDM + BLM.. what do you do when the magic immune gigas is the one to port to 5f? I take out my blau and joy and rape the fucker, but I don't think that would work so well for a SCH.

SW: If you're going to bring a 2nd person, you may as well BRD+BLM/SCH the zone for a faster kill.

SCH vs BLM is pretty irrelevant there, BLM is still better because they can manafont the elementals on the top floor and kill all 3 in 60s.

[Aerynlia]

The third one always opens vortex and the last one always drops items... or at least has every time for us since I noticed the trend.

Edit: And to note, Thorny said to bring someone to sac. They have zone aggro, so don't do that. MNK and RDM has always been the easiest duo for me for SW, but BLM and any light based sleep is pretty comfortable too.