Item Search
     
BG-Wiki Search
Page 63 of 73 FirstFirst ... 13 53 61 62 63 64 65 ... LastLast
Results 1241 to 1260 of 1460
  1. #1241
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,859
    BG Level
    8

    Ya I took me like 30 low man kills to get my torque...

  2. #1242
    New Merits
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    231
    BG Level
    4
    FFXI Server
    Valefor

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Ya I took me like 30 low man kills to get my torque...
    I feel you guys on that. 1/22 on mine >.<

  3. #1243
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    5,674
    BG Level
    8

    Did you honestly tell someone with 24% haste to use faith torque over tiercel?

    Also, bring TH4 ffs. Sold a good dozen faith torques and average between 1/5 and 1/6.

  4. #1244
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,436
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    All kills done with TH4. Me and my friend aren't into the 0/20+ ratio yet, but we are at the stage where we can certainly be called unlucky with it.

  5. #1245
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    505
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Ragnarok

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooom View Post

    Asuran 1

    Spoiler: show
    http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/452/mnkasuran1.jpg

    When I finally re-do my MKDE it'll be for dancer, so just imagine that's an Ohat. Belt is lifebelt.


    Asuran 2


    Life belt? Maybe that belt from Belladonna? Or that new 15acc 15att 1%DA if MNK can use.

  6. #1246
    D. Ring
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,529
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    Big MNK gear set dump. Advice welcomed, much to upgrade with abyssea.
    Spoiler: show
    FW TP
    http://i29.tinypic.com/2mowcqe.jpg
    Focus up
    http://i29.tinypic.com/2mowcqe.jpg
    Tornado kick focus down (pretty sure I need to add a bit of acc here but I'm redoing MKD head for MNK asap so it won't be a problem I think)
    http://i30.tinypic.com/x60lkk.jpg
    Focus up Tornado kick
    http://i25.tinypic.com/xggowl.jpg
    High acc TP
    http://i27.tinypic.com/5fiss0.jpg
    Standard TP (Pizza or lower eva mobs)
    http://i27.tinypic.com/34ew3g9.jpg
    Focus up TP
    http://i26.tinypic.com/2rr05g9.jpg
    PDT
    http://i26.tinypic.com/16ivatx.jpg
    Idle
    http://i25.tinypic.com/2h2p9pd.jpg
    Howling fist
    http://i26.tinypic.com/20zxmqv.jpg
    Chakra (many upgrades to be added)
    http://i30.tinypic.com/mb20as.jpg
    Asuran (Focus up or sushi generally) Will be replacing these ugly boots shortly. Just needed a temporary replacement.
    http://i28.tinypic.com/250uwc1.jpg
    Medium acc Asuran (virtuoso belt)
    http://i31.tinypic.com/synvr8.jpg
    High acc Asuran
    http://i26.tinypic.com/148how1.jpg
    MDT(Still need quite a bit here)
    http://i25.tinypic.com/2w5ssjs.jpg
    (Still need quite a bit here)
    EVA(Really lacking, have not put much effort into this set)
    http://i27.tinypic.com/2enuro1.jpg


    Edit: Focus up FW TP swaps into Acubens, Forager's, Triumph ring, Faith torque. Accidentally uploaded the same pic twice.

  7. #1247
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,436
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesio View Post
    LOr that new 15acc 15att 1%DA if MNK can use.
    Haven't seen this yet, what item is it?

  8. #1248
    D. Ring
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,529
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    Drops off the pieste boss in Abyssea iirc. Also derp thanks for the spoiler, knew I forgot something.
    Yeah drops off pieste and mnk can use.

  9. #1249
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    3,709
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Fenrir

    Cobra Harness/Usu body for Footwork build aye? Should drop you a hit to WS.

  10. #1250
    D. Ring
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,529
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    Yeah I'm working on allied notes currently. Will have that in a couple days.

  11. #1251
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,859
    BG Level
    8

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Did you honestly tell someone with 24% haste to use faith torque over tiercel?
    .
    Yes. But only you would toss out base damage, acc, and attack for a lower improvement in hit rate.

    Trying to broadcast that Tiercel should replace Faith torque when it is BARELY situationally better only in instances where you are capped on acc or attack and getting double marches/haste (albeit you should always be getting double marches and haste) is just plain attention whoring and stupid.

    When focus is up you can make a better argument that it's just a base damage increase and attack versus hit rate up, but even then they are damn near equal (tiercel pulls slightly ahead).

    So why would you use a piece that is inferior most of the time and near equal other times? Oh ya, because you're Thorny and you like giving bad advice.

    Also, lol @ assuming people that have shit luck on faith torque just dont bring TH4. WHY DIDNT WE THINK OF THAT!?

  12. #1252
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    18,369
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Sath Fenrir
    FFXIV Server
    Cactuar
    FFXI Server
    Fenrir

    This will end well.

  13. #1253
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,859
    BG Level
    8

    It's pretty clear how it will go:

    1. Thorny will respond with a biased post with math in favor of attack capped situations with a Mnk with in a lvl range that doesnt get base damage increase from torque and is using sushi on a feinted mob with focus up.

    2. He'll then compare that to 1% haste with double marches/haste and a dancer with fully merited haste samba fighting mobs with no evasion or defensem, getting Dia3, and fighting outside a starter city.

    3. His 2 lap dogs will then come in and say something stupid.

    4. A few posts of arguing between us about how his math shows his comment was correct (.4% of the time), and not completely useless, insulting, and retarded.

    5. Then Isladar will tell us to shut up.

    The funny thing is: I dont actually dislike Thorny. Half the time he gives good advice. It would just be 1000 times more helpful if the other half of his posts weren't baseless generalizations and insults based on gear suggestions that are equal/worse/fractionally situationally better, all the while insulting people for using/suggesting alternatives that are within .002% of what he was laughing at people for using. It just gets old.

  14. #1254
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    6,514
    BG Level
    8
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    ? But we ARE talking about when Focus is up lol.

  15. #1255
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,859
    BG Level
    8

    Details details Q.Q.

    Base damage from h2h skill = 0.11*skill and then adding 3.

    @ 80:

    301 skill. 308 with torque. Base damage = 36.11 and 36.88

    317 merited. 324 with torque + merits. Base damage = 37.87 and 38.64

    So 1 base damage and 7 att vs. 1% haste (2 min out of 5), or when overcapped on acc. (I already said the haste -marginally- wins)

    However: One thing nobody mentioned:

    If you dont need the 7stp on usu feet to save an attack round on Mnk, Turban/Haidate/Fumas + Faith torque > Turban + Haidate + Usu + Tiercel. (But again it's near fucking equal >.>).

    So either way: It's stupid to jump into the thread and chastise people screaming "ZOMG YOU ARENT CHOOSING THE HASTE OPTION".

  16. #1256
    D. Ring
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,529
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Details details Q.Q.

    Base damage from h2h skill = 0.11*skill and then adding 3.

    @ 80:

    301 skill. 308 with torque. Base damage = 36.11 and 36.88

    317 merited. 324 with torque + merits. Base damage = 37.87 and 38.64

    So 1 base damage and 7 att vs. 1% haste (2 min out of 5), or when overcapped on acc. (I already said the haste -marginally- wins)

    However: One thing nobody mentioned:

    If you dont need the 7stp on usu feet to save an attack round on Mnk, Turban/Haidate/Fumas + Faith torque > Turban + Haidate + Usu + Tiercel.
    (But again it's near fucking equal >.>).

    So either way: It's stupid to jump into the thread and chastise people screaming "ZOMG YOU ARENT CHOOSING THE HASTE OPTION".
    This is wrong. 7 STP will always be better than 1% haste as far as I know(on MNK or DW job). 7STP (ignoring the atk) will add more damage than 1% haste will. Monk (basically any DW job) will multi hit far too frequently for a x-hit build to be realistic. STP will still decrease your average number of hits to 100 TP and thus adding damage.

  17. #1257
    rog
    rog is offline
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    3,874
    BG Level
    7

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    This is wrong. 7 STP will always be better than 1% haste as far as I know(on MNK or DW job). 7STP (ignoring the atk) will add more damage than 1% haste will. Monk (basically any DW job) will multi hit far too frequently for a x-hit build to be realistic. STP will still decrease your average number of hits to 100 TP and thus adding damage.
    Going from 19->18 hits for 100 tp doesn't really make much difference, especially since, as you said, you'll often DA right past 100 anyway.

    And i'd love to know how stp decreases the hits it takes to get 100 tp, except for xhit builds.

  18. #1258
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    4,753
    BG Level
    7

    ..Increases average TP/hit?

    2H DD need a very precise amount of STP to produce an X-hit build that cannot be affected by one's accuracy, so anything beyond the required amount won't make a difference. 1H and H2H DD end up with varying amounts of TP due to the extreme variation that can occur in the number of attacks per round, meaning that the additional TP/hit will occasionally cause them to hit 100% a round early.

  19. #1259
    rog
    rog is offline
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    3,874
    BG Level
    7

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    ..Increases average TP/hit?

    2H DD need a very precise amount of STP to produce an X-hit build that cannot be affected by one's accuracy, so anything beyond the required amount won't make a difference. 1H and H2H DD end up with varying amounts of TP due to the extreme variation that can occur in the number of attacks per round, meaning that the additional TP/hit will occasionally cause them to hit 100% a round early.
    You still need a specific amount of stp for it to matter at all, whether you're geting 20 tp/hit, or 5. If the stp doesn't lower the number of hits you need to get 100, then it does nothing, and if it does, then it's an xhit build.

  20. #1260
    Banned.

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    4,753
    BG Level
    7

    No.

Page 63 of 73 FirstFirst ... 13 53 61 62 63 64 65 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1519
    Last Post: 2009-10-07, 13:10
  2. Replies: 1508
    Last Post: 2009-07-20, 16:49
  3. Replies: 1499
    Last Post: 2009-05-19, 00:01
  4. Replies: 1473
    Last Post: 2009-03-04, 12:28
  5. Replies: 1705
    Last Post: 2008-12-07, 12:12
  6. Replies: 1645
    Last Post: 2008-08-21, 00:12
  7. Post Pictures of your gear II
    By Sonomaa in forum FFXI: Media
    Replies: 1466
    Last Post: 2008-04-06, 09:02
  8. Post pictures of your gear.
    By Senoska in forum FFXI: Media
    Replies: 2082
    Last Post: 2007-07-27, 04:51