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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Here's a couple articles quoting him as saying it never happened. These were before he backpedaled and tried to say the halloucaust wasn't as bad as people made it out to be.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_291056.html
    I have no problem conceding on this point. It makes no real difference to the illegitimacy of the analogy -- a head of state saying something heinous is cause for concern, but a fringe 'cleric?'

    Even so, in the BBC link, I didn't see an outright denial of the Holocaust. Again, I can fully concede that he denied it, and even hinting at it is seriously flawed, but what I saw were:

    "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he said.
    I've seen a similar statement in speech transcripts, and his usage of 'myth' refers to there having been the large number of Jewish people killed (6million) -- he believes it to be nowhere near that.

    "If someone were to deny the existence of God... or prophets and religion, they would not bother him.

    "However, if someone were to deny the myth of the Jews' massacre, all the Zionist mouthpieces and the governments subservient to the Zionists tear their larynxes and scream against the person as much as they can," he said.
    That again doesn't deny the occurrence of the Holocaust:
    1) myth again refers to # of Jewish people killed
    2) conditional statements

    In the Huffington Post article, all that I saw was:

    Speaking before a crowd of supporters at Tehran University, he questioned whether the Holocaust was a "real event" and called it a pretext for the creation of Israel. He said the Jewish state was founded on "a lie and a mythical claim."
    No actual real quotes, which is concerning. At least in the BBC article, you have some actual parts of his speech and you can better defend him saying the Holocaust never occurred.

    Again, it's a damned embarrassment that Iran's head of state uses such hateful rhetoric, and is insistent upon making such claims. But this is very tangent to the point previously discussed, and I could wholly concede on his denial of the Holocaust (and not, potentially, aspects of it) and my point still remains, that the analogy between Ahmadinejad and this marginal cleric is not legitimate.

    And I'm not defending the guy who made the claims about earthquakes anyway -- that guy can go die in a fire for all I care. It's just bad journalism.

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    I can believe my ass is made of ice cream, but that don't make me a hot-fudge Sunday.

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    Personally, I think it's married women's fault for not matching the promiscuity of the single women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    I can believe my ass is made of ice cream, but that don't make me a hot-fudge Sunday.
    if tweaked a bit, this could be a great pickup line

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    what about women who get themselves off? does that cause earfquakes too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8631775.stm



    Of course, since women and the earth are traditionally linked, it makes sense that when some slut is having an orgasm, Mother Earth is having one too. Volcanoes must be gushers.
    Is that why California has so many Earthquakes? All those whores that live there are fucking that state up.

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    Fear keeps them in line. I bet your ass the next woman to show some hair is gonna get beat to a pulp in fear of an imminent earthquake. Learn your politics.

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    lets listen to any dimwit who happens to be muslim, and whatever retarded shit he says, we generalize it on the whole religion and its followers!

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    I don't think the BBC article generalized, and I'd argue that the butthurt Muslims in this thread are generalizing more than the nonbelievers.

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    I will say, there hasn't been a single dipshit comment about how the Middle East is super duper violent, this is sursely an improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya View Post
    And tbh if looking at Christina Hendricks' boobs causes earthquakes, I am willing to make that trade.
    If looking at those causes earthquakes in Iran and China, half the conservative population of the US is going to start subscribing to the Playboy Channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyreth View Post
    If looking at those causes earthquakes in Iran and China, half the conservative population of the US is going to start subscribing to the Playboy Channel.
    Statistics show this to be the case already.

    edit: Also Kuya, this just shows that the entire Middle East is nothing but a bunch of misogynistic, violent piece of shit that should be nuked off the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    lets listen to any dimwit who happens to be muslim, and whatever retarded shit he says, we generalize it on the whole religion and its followers!
    Hey you guys get riled up when any half baked christian/mormon/jewish/etc half unknown religious nut says anything retarded. Turn about is fair play.

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    No see that's different because Islam is the true religion and those other guys are evil imperialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    since I live in california, can't i just test this theory by banging some loose muslim woman and see if the bay bridge collapses again?
    No don't, having to take bart when that happened was awful

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...uslim_rag.html

    Not worth a new thread entirely but I thought it pertinent to the discussion at hand. I think it is ironic that they are getting threatened by violence since that was the actual whole plot line was them NOT showing Muhammed because they were scared it would cause violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...uslim_rag.html

    Not worth a new thread entirely but I thought it pertinent to the discussion at hand. I think it is ironic that they are getting threatened by violence since that was the actual whole plot line was them NOT showing Muhammed because they were scared it would cause violence.
    lol I love that language of "warning".

    That's a nice show you've got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena
    Hey you guys get riled up when any half baked christian/mormon/jewish/etc half unknown religious nut says anything retarded. Turn about is fair play.
    that iranian cleric isnt going to decide to invade 3 countries and destroy your culutre, kill your children and suck your oil fields dry like your half baked christians/mormons/zionists do.

    or maybe we're just overreacting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    that iranian cleric isnt going to decide to invade 3 countries and destroy your culutre, kill your children and suck your oil fields dry like your half baked christians/mormons/zionists do.

    or maybe we're just overreacting.
    You heard it here folks, Westboro church invaded iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firas View Post
    that iranian cleric isnt going to decide to invade 3 countries and destroy your culutre, kill your children and suck your oil fields dry like your half baked christians/mormons/zionists do.

    or maybe we're just overreacting.

    Incoming shit storm where someone lists every incidence of violence started by all the major religions including wars started by their leaders.

    I am sure that somewhere in history you can find plenty of examples where a Muslim leader decided to invade several countries, kill children, destroy culture, and do all the same things that "half baked christians/mormons/zionists" do.

    Hmm I think the whole "can't show or draw or talk about mohammad" thing is a perfect example of the Muslim religion forcing itself on the world even people who do not believe. Do Muslims respect Joseph Smith (mormon founder) and Jesus and Xenu in the same way they expect the entire world to respect mohammad?

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