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  1. #1
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    Carpenter's Smock Broken +1 Skill

    Before I start this post, yes I am aware it could have been bad luck but I tested this with several other cheaper synths and to the same problem.

    Okay so the past view days I have been crafting Elemental stave and have being doing very well hitting the 25% HQ rate and some times even better. Well yesterday morning I changed my Carpenter's Apron into a smock which apparently was a mistake. As I went 1/9 yesterday and am now 0/11 on stave and then I am at the 10% on other tier 2 crafts which have now become tier 1 it seems.

    I have contacted a GM about this and here is the conversation. feel free to flame if you want I do not care nor will reply. I am only posting this to save people the trouble and the loss of Gil as I have.

    [GM]Xophious>> Greetings Brysky of Sylph. I am GM Xophious. I understand you are contacting us in regards to a Synergy Guild Point
    [GM]Xophious>> Item. Can you please give me a little more information? >>Xophious : yes, i recently upgraded my Carpenter's apron into the Carpenter's smock
    >>Xophious : before the upgrade the average HQ elemental staff is 1/4 normally 1/5
    >>Xophious : now that i have upgraded the rule of 31 does not seem to apply anymore
    >>Xophious : as i went 1/9 yesterday
    >>Xophious : and am 0/11 right now
    >>Xophious : being 31 levels over cap with support should be a 25% chance at HQ
    [GM]Xophious>> I apologize for the trouble and frustration that has been causing you. I can see why you would be so
    >>Xophious : i believe that there is a error in the coding and the Carpenter's Smock does not give +1 skill
    [GM]Xophious>> concerned over the Carpenter's Smock.
    >>Xophious : yes i just wasted over 2mil in gil over past 2 days [GM]Xophious>> When did you last upgrade frmo the Apron to the Smock? >>Xophious : yesterday
    >>Xophious : in the morning
    [GM]Xophious>> from*
    >>Xophious : a few days prior to the upgrade my average of HQ staves was still at the 25% range on being 31 lvls over
    [GM]Xophious>> Thank you for that information.
    [GM]Xophious>> Unfortunately, we are not able to offer anytype of reimbursement but I can make a note of the Carpenter's Smock not [GM]Xophious>> adding +1 to your skill as listed, just in case. [GM]Xophious>> In the meantime, the community sites could have some information of the Smock as well. They are available to
    [GM]Xophious>> view at PlayOnline > Community > Community Sites
    >>Xophious : i knew i would not be given my lost gil back as the crafting is a luck thing, but i just want this fixed
    >>Xophious : as this error has cost me millions and screws up the whole crafting in general
    [GM]Xophious>> I am sorry for not being able to assist directly, but I would also suggest for you to leave an
    [GM]Xophious>> official feedback about the crafting concern. Would you like to know where to do so?
    >>Xophious : yes please, i am sure it is on the playonline website somewhere [GM]Xophious>> It can be left by going through support.na.square-enix> FINAL FANTASY XI > contact > Comments & Suggestions
    [GM]Xophious>> Is there another question or concern before I make a note of the Carpenter's Smock?
    >>Xophious : no, i will just be happy if this is fixed i am finacially ruined at the moment now
    >>Xophious : i only have 180k thanks to this mess up
    [GM]Xophious>> I'd like to thank you for contacting us, Brysky. I apologize again for the loss of your gil. I will be on this
    [GM]Xophious>> side wishing you the best with your future crafting!

    Thank you,
    Brysky

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    Flip a coin 10 times

    Did you get 5 heads?

    ZOMG PENNY IS BROKEN CALL GM

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    Not trying to be a douche but you said it right here...

    I have been crafting Elemental stave and have being doing very well hitting the 25% HQ rate and some times even better. Well yesterday morning I changed my Carpenter's Apron into a smock which apparently was a mistake. As I went 1/9 yesterday and am now 0/11 on stave

    And below is your bad luck streak...Skeptical

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    waiting for besieged to end and going to do a run of oak poles to see what the HQ rate is there

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    I've never had any kind of luck with the HQ staves. I gave up on my signed set after thunder and ice because it was so frustrating.

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    ok just did 10 synths of oak pole (level 55) advance support, so made me 100+3 and 2/10 with 1 break

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    Quote Originally Posted by brysky View Post
    ok just did 10 synths of oak pole (level 55) advance support, so made me 100+3 and 2/10 with 1 break
    edit: meh nm, this thread is just going to frustrate me.

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    yeah 103+3 sorry.

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    Delevel your craft to 83, attempt Cursed Togi with smock on. If you can't, it's broken. If you can, have fun getting back to 100.

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    You remembered to jump 10 times and clap your hands twice for the HQ to happen right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamil View Post
    You remembered to jump 10 times and clap your hands twice for the HQ to happen right?
    I'll be sure to remember that next time I'm crafting automaton oil +2s.

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    even with a T3 your sample is too small. TBH on a T3 I would be a believer if you did 100 synths and had less than a 35% HQ rate. Yes that's lower than the "accepted values" but let's err on the side of caution.

    I'm still gonna wager it was a bad streak. You need a lot more than 20 T2 synths and 10 T3 synths to make anyone here a believer.

    Is it possible? Sure. So is the error we recently had on odin where he just sat there and did nothing for the last 40% (only to lead to double M.body drop, so don't count us lucky). But so is walking into Riverne Site B and seeing hot pink hippogryphs.

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    How about you try a cheap 31+ recipe on 50 or 100 synths? Then you would have a better argument to present to the GM.

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    I went 0/about 17-20 about 2 years ago on a 100+3 woodworker with advanced support.

    Crafting has always been broken, but you were just lucky prior to the smock

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    ok will do a hundred or so synths after this camp and post results

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    lol.

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    I just did 12 lvl44 synths(I'm 93 WW) Smock + Furnishing and I yielded a 6/12.

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    ok i think i was wrong and sorry for wasting any time... i am at 5/18 for HQ atm so going to quit before i waste to much gil and just think of myself as having bad luck

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    really? 1/9, 0/10 or w/e?
    my lifetime record on staves is in the 15-18% range 103+3. You're lucky to have a 25% rate or w/e thus far, its how it goes.

    I have gone 0/27 and 0/23 on staves. bad streaks are bad. welcome to crafting.

    you can do 500 synths w/ a lower rate than your 'normal' rate. It doesn't PROVE anything.

    The only proof is what was stated before: attempt a synth where you are 16 below cap w/ smock on and it doesn't let you.

    Short of that...SE announcing they broke it in an update.

    edit: just saw you snapped out of it in your last post :D

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    morale of the story: if you don't have the gil to lose, don't craft with it.

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