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  1. #2201
    blax n gunz
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    After 4.2 hits you should be able to successfully PUG players through 10/12 normal mode bosses, considering the drastic drop in HP/damage output for every boss as well as the trivialization of several key mechanics. You probably can't drag players in greens through this content, but gearing a 10-man for Firelands probably won't be much of a problem.

    The only real challenge will be the sudden spike in difficulty when transitioning to Firelands bosses at their full, shitty/buggy mechanic strength.

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    Most pugs I made (without gears or achievement check) managed to get 5/6, 4/4 and 1/2 before the updates. I think your average pugs will be able to full clears these place after the update with the nerf alone. Let alone in 2 weeks with more gears.


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    Maybe not on backwater server, but I can see what will stop people for clearing bwd if they are willing to give more than 2 shot at nef.

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    Our raidgroup/guild is down to about 5 people now... Not really sure how I'm going to get my legendary now.

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    Got LW Epic pattern and epic caster DPS dagger off of trash

  5. #2205
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    sweet drops bro

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    Any word on if the Embers for the legendary are purchasable or drop only?

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    we're about to start up once one or two more people log on so i'll update in a sec

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    Heard some guilds are 7/7 already in the US, with a few people saying their guild is 4/7 5/7 etc

    I guess this means Firelands normal mode is quite easy

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    Normal mode, no surprise.

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    I'm just trying to decide how our rag tag bunch of misfits will handle it lol

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    Giving how 4.0 normal modes gave so many people so much trouble and were such a turn off for the average WoW player, i wouldn't be surprised if normal Firelands was Naxx easy. I'm not subbed atm so i won't find out, just my predictions.

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    Holy crap.... 3½ aspect, malfurion, Aggra, thrall and yourself were not enough to put a fight against Fandral? I like cutscenes, and I'm happy they are including more plot development, but this particular one looked a little ridiculous. I have never seen so many powerful hero gathered in one place , and they couldn't do anything...

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    That would be pretty interesting.

    Anyways, weird discussion/question type thing:

    I got 3 alts that has not touched Hyjal, only the beginning quests to get tabard. Which quest do I need to go up to in Hyjal to do the Fireland Dailies and the Fireland ICC style rep? (I assume one will unlock both)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    Heard some guilds are 7/7 already in the US, with a few people saying their guild is 4/7 5/7 etc

    I guess this means Firelands normal mode is quite easy
    or everybody did ptr every chance they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    Heard some guilds are 7/7 already in the US, with a few people saying their guild is 4/7 5/7 etc

    I guess this means Firelands normal mode is quite easy
    These 'first fifty' guilds have been farming Sinestra for weeks and had PTR-honed tactics. Doesn't mean the content is 'easy,' merely that they vastly outgear it and didn't wipe trying to learn it on live servers.

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    even so, still sad its so easy. This is content we will be doing for what... 6 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    even so, still sad its so easy. This is content we will be doing for what... 6 months?
    It should be 3 months. I dont think there will be another 4.1 with 5man only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    That would be pretty interesting.

    Anyways, weird discussion/question type thing:

    I got 3 alts that has not touched Hyjal, only the beginning quests to get tabard. Which quest do I need to go up to in Hyjal to do the Fireland Dailies and the Fireland ICC style rep? (I assume one will unlock both)
    aessena's miracle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    even so, still sad its so easy for the fastest, best geared and most experienced guilds in the world, comprising maybe 1% of the game population
    Just keeping things in perspective here.

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    suddenly, everybody is in a top 50 guild and thinks content is easy.

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