Random Cataclysm discussion

[Arvin]

mage t6 was cool, and your t11 was neat.

[Kaylia]

Am I the only one that doesn't think T12 as a whole looks awful? Best hunter set to date (as long as the hat is turned off), a few others look fine too...then you have druid which just looks hideous.

I like T12 so far. There is a few pieces here and there that I dislike (mage's headlight for one, warlock's color scheme), but it's not worth bitching about.

[FailureMidgard]

No you are absolutely correct. Although I haven't worn a helmet of ANY tier since Warrior t6, so I discount the helms for every tier. T12 is the single best tier as a whole that we have had in a long time. True druid tier looks like they took a rotten tree stump and stuck it on your head and shoulders, but the rest of the sets are pretty damn awesome. Rogue and Paladin are some of the better sets thus far imo.

Ya! I dunno, people in my guild also bitch about Firelands being boring because it's all firey...I can understand that gripe but I think it's well done for what it's supposed to be...they have the same gripe about the gear I guess. I think as a whole, it's one of the best sets (only Naxx-60 trumps it, where I think almost everyone loved their sets? Except hunters maybe, 'cause every hunter set has been hideous except like 5 and 12, and 5 wasn't too good either.).

I like T12 so far. There is a few pieces here and there that I dislike (mage's headlight for one, warlock's color scheme), but it's not worth bitching about.

You mean T13 (the new previewed ones?) ya? I think most the sets look a bit silly...I love the mage headlights though, only because I get to harass Avelle about them constantly and never have to wear em myself. I think it's quite fitting though, if we have to ride Deathwing through the night sky, we're gonna need some headlights to see where we're going.

[Galkaeater]

I acturrly like the new mage set although the shaman set is the best set shown so far

[Boyiee]

Missed the discussion for legendary dagger.

Happy I rerolled to rogue for 10mans.

[Siniroth]

Maybe Blizzard just really -really- wants Mages to use old tier sets and whatnot for transmogging so they made this one bad

[Meresgi]

In the past Blizzard has always tried to make the tier call to mind the dungeon it's from...which doesn't always work well...but wtf are these tier sets? I mean the warlock and warrior ones bring to mind Deathwing and Old Gods..but shaman and mage don't really. Also for that matter...who the fuck are we fighting in the Deathwing Raid? I didn't bother reading any of the books and ive heard people saying some bosses will be from the books, hopefully they put some in the new 5mans so we can see them before hand. I mean for ICC25 we knew who we were going to fight for the most part on a few bosses, and the same for a lot of other raids, right now I know we're fighting Deathwing at least 3-5x and that's it...

[Boyiee]

If the mage helm didn't have the goggles I would be 100% in love with it. I'm 80% in love without the helm.

[Galkaeater]

googles need to be over the eyes

[Guitarman]

In the past Blizzard has always tried to make the tier call to mind the dungeon it's from...which doesn't always work well...but wtf are these tier sets? I mean the warlock and warrior ones bring to mind Deathwing and Old Gods..but shaman and mage don't really. Also for that matter...who the fuck are we fighting in the Deathwing Raid? I didn't bother reading any of the books and ive heard people saying some bosses will be from the books, hopefully they put some in the new 5mans so we can see them before hand. I mean for ICC25 we knew who we were going to fight for the most part on a few bosses, and the same for a lot of other raids, right now I know we're fighting Deathwing at least 3-5x and that's it...

Reading the spoilers, in a recent book there was a chormatic dragon that was created and sent to wyrmrest temple to destroy it. since our fight with deathwing starts at the temple, i'm almost certain we're going to fight the chromatic dragon (or whatever it was called) as one of the first bosses. In my mind it looks like Chimaeron with 1 or 2 extra heads thrown on it based on the book description.

[BadKarma]

Reading the spoilers, in a recent book there was a chormatic dragon that was created and sent to wyrmrest temple to destroy it. since our fight with deathwing starts at the temple, i'm almost certain we're going to fight the chromatic dragon (or whatever it was called) as one of the first bosses. In my mind it looks like Chimaeron with 1 or 2 extra heads thrown on it based on the book description.

Its name is Chromatus. Its inanimate and stored in an Arcane prison below the temple. So It is plausible we will see him....but hes also bigger the both Deathwing and Alex

http://www.wowpedia.org/images/thumb...-Chromatus.jpg


Also we will probably be fighting the Twilight Father who is actually

Spoiler: show

Archibishop Benedictus

[FailureMidgard]

You made me waste over an hour getting lost in the wowwiki about this stupid lore stuff. You owe me my time back, I could have been posting multiple pages of TLDR math shit instead.

[Guitarman]

Epic gems will drop in the new raid (likely on Normal and Heroic only).

Fuck you Blizzard.

[Mortilox]

Melee classes will be getting a buff that is only active in the new raid to help them compete with ranged classes.

Did anyone else read this and go "wat"? I sure did, seeing as the melee in my 10man have no trouble staying at #1-2 on the damage done meter.

Meh. Maybe they're adding more fights like Atramedes.

[Katlan]

lol @ new raid only having 8 bosses and 7 unique bosses. 3 hour raid go.

And wow at no T13 at all for VP. Well now, thats kinda backtracking and gonna make ppl rage.
And wtf shit is this that melee need a buff to compete w/ ranged in deathwing raid? This has never been a problem before... so is this raid going to be so imbalanced that one is needed? Thats terrible design

[Meko]

The DPS buff could be to balance the movement of the fights. Time will tell I suppose. I'm interested to see what they do.

[Meresgi]

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...patch43_11.jpg


Thats a pretty impressive boss right thar, looks like they spent a lot of time using the copy and paste commands.

and legendary daggers are rogue exclusive, so there goes out the window people who said other classes could use them. fucking lol

Deathwing drops weapons, so no other boss will probably drop any, because unlike ICC where Arthas dropped weapons and other bosses did as well, we're talking 4 less bosses.

Tier 13 will not be available at all from valor points.

aka even less loot from the bosses as they will drop tokens...which is great because that just means more times we'll kill a boss and get triple Conq or trip Vanq when no one needs that shit and then 1-2 other pieces of loot.

Epic gems will drop in the new raid (likely on Normal and Heroic only).

lol what the fuck?

[aurik]

Re: gems, they're making it so each boss drops a "bag" for each player, and that bag will sometimes have an epic gem.

And yeah...

While the game may continue to go strongly for a long time, do you think WoW may have hit its peak subscription number at all?
Ghostcrawler: I mean, gosh, that is so hard to know. It’s really hard to tell what is… you know it’s a seven-year-old game at this point. We don’t have really any examples of games that have remained so popular for so long to really know what the future might bring. We certainly understand that some players have just gotten their fill of World of Warcraft, and the kind of things we would have to do to provide really interesting new features for them risks changing World of Warcraft into something else. We have to be really careful not to overhaul the game so dramatically that people who love the game fall out of love with it. At the same time, it is a rough economy going on, summers are always a little light, and periods between expansions are always a little light, so we’ll see how things look after another expansion or two.

WoW is dying.

[Katlan]

The DPS buff could be to balance the movement of the fights. Time will tell I suppose. I'm interested to see what they do.

Yeah, its retarded that they design fights around the fact that they need to give melee dps a buff. They have never needed to do that, but now all of a sudden they do? forget having to balance fights around melee and ranged, lets just give melee a buff!

A lot of these 4.3 decisions are just plain retarded and bad design.. They are making the game easier and easier (LFR tool that will prolly be tank and spank so super casuals can see encounters since waiting a few months for stuff to be nerfed into oblivion is asking too much).

Epic gems idea is retarded and its taking the craft away from JC's. Though I loved the reused skin model.. They didn't even take the time to reskin it, its the same as Vezzax.

[Meresgi]

WoW is dying.

So Ghostcrawler's response to making the game more fun and changing things up is "Go buy 2 more expansions, then we'll see"...bravo good sir, bravo.

Yeah, its retarded that they design fights around the fact that they need to give melee dps a buff. They have never needed to do that, but now all of a sudden they do? forget having to balance fights around melee and ranged, lets just give melee a buff!

It's easier for them. Ib4 the buff makes melee completely OP at the start of the raid and is nerfed heavily afterwards.