Random Cataclysm discussion

**aurik** · 2011-09-19 16:24

JC is 27*3 = 81 stat, not 61.

\m/ blacksmithing.

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-09-19 16:31

That's with blue gems. I typo'd and put 61 instead of 51. If you have +50 gems everywhere, a 67 Chim eye is +17*3=51.

**fantasticdan** · 2011-09-19 16:50

If you guys don't think they'll buff other professions in the same way as when epic gems were added in wotlk, I have some things to sell you.

**Kaylia** · 2011-09-19 17:10

Originally Posted by FailureMidgard

http://www.tankspot.com/

Sorry, you misread what I said. JC is getting fucked. And grats smith for getting more than everyone else, because it sounds like they don't plan to buff professions.

If epic gems are +50 per stat, smithing is now +100 stat, JC is now +51 stat, and others remain at +80. So Smith is getting a buff, JC is getting fucked.

{Edit: I put +61 instead of 51, my bad!}

They just said it will take a whole content cycle to replace your blue with purple. It's not like you will benefit from this bonus anytime soon on blacksmith, and when you will, chance is it won't matter much anymore.

And for JC, it's the same as blacksmith, it won't matter until every other gem are replaced. I don't think the eventual loss is worth crying over.

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-09-19 17:43

Originally Posted by fantasticdan

If you guys don't think they'll buff other professions in the same way as when epic gems were added in wotlk, I have some things to sell you.

I thought they did until I read that interview with Ghostcrawler. Why would he say they basically have no plans to and don't think everyone will drop professions for smithing?

Quoted again:

L: How is that going to work with profession bonuses? Blacksmithing with its extra sockets, assuming that you could get ahold of a full set of epic gems, seems like it would all of a sudden become the best profession.

GS: I think the epic gems are like 10 stat points over the current ones, so it's a nice boost, but hopefully it won't push everyone towards Blacksmithing.

L: So you'd only end up with like 20 extra Strength as a Blacksmith.

GS: Yeah, something like that.

It definitely implies exactly what I am saying, and is from Ghostcrawler. Yes, last week I woulda agreed with you 100%...now I dunno. I think they may do it in 4.3.2 or something, but sounds like the current plan for 4.3 is Smithing>X>JC.

Re:Kaylia, there's AH, alt runs, trading, etc. I think we'll cap on them far faster than you say.

**Meresgi** · 2011-09-19 20:16

MMO Champ has pics of the bosses to be in 4.3 up..I hope these are placeholders...

Spoiler: show

So that's 4 bosses + 2 fights with Deathwing, so we have only 2 bosses not shown..

**Katlan** · 2011-09-19 21:07

^ you forget general vezzax

**Meresgi** · 2011-09-19 21:08

Nuh uh, that's the Warlord, totally different guy then the one we fought in Ulduar...and Grim Batol...

**Katlan** · 2011-09-19 21:19

your right, vezzax is a little bit lighter, but same color pallete. I mean his tentacle ears are a different color, but everything else may just be due to lighting

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-09-19 23:03

Originally Posted by Meresgi

Nuh uh, that's the Warlord, totally different guy then the one we fought in Ulduar...and Grim Batol...

Starting a pool on if he has shadow crash!

**Meresgi** · 2011-09-19 23:41

I'm not holding my breath, but Marrowgar was just a giant bone skeleton before his model was done...so who knows, either way though with how Molten Front turned out, im not getting hopes up at all.

**Kaylia** · 2011-09-20 00:25

Originally Posted by FailureMidgard

Re:Kaylia, there's AH, alt runs, trading, etc. I think we'll cap on them far faster than you say.

I was under the impression from their post they would be BoP. If they can be bought on the Ah, then yeah, what I said doesn't apply.

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-09-20 02:09

Originally Posted by Kaylia

I was under the impression from their post they would be BoP. If they can be bought on the Ah, then yeah, what I said doesn't apply.

If they are BoP, only JCs get the benefit, and it'd make JC for me roughly 176 agi, 10crit, and 5hit ... I don't see that happening. Or they could drop pre-cut which would be even worse than everything else listed so far.

**Mortilox** · 2011-09-20 08:45

- Heirlooms and Account Bound items can be transmogrified.
- Mailing an item strips its transmogrification.

Oh come on.

**avelle** · 2011-09-20 09:35

Originally Posted by Mortilox

- Heirlooms and Account Bound items can be transmogrified.
- Mailing an item strips its transmogrification.

Oh come on.

They don't want your level 1 alt running around in T13.

**Kaylia** · 2011-09-20 11:49

Originally Posted by FailureMidgard

If they are BoP, only JCs get the benefit, and it'd make JC for me roughly 176 agi, 10crit, and 5hit ... I don't see that happening. Or they could drop pre-cut which would be even worse than everything else listed so far.

It wouldnt be bad if you could trade the un-cut gem you receive at the vendor for another of the same type.

Personally, I would rather have rare BoP gem (~1 per raid night) that are satisfying to win and equip rather than dumb money on the AH to fill every slot. Gemming as it is add nothing, doesn't require much thoughts, and doesnt feel rewarding. I don't know...that might be just me.

**Katlan** · 2011-09-20 12:01

rogue t13 isn't that bad, but I like t12 better:

T13 is supposed to resemble a bat...... lol

**Correction** · 2011-09-20 12:10

The belt is weird, here I thought Blizzard was sticking with the WWE championship belt style to show off more detail. Shoulders are aight.

**Draygon** · 2011-09-20 12:36

Lol, heroic firelands nerfs...

**aurik** · 2011-09-20 12:37

yep.

As announced in the ‘Firelands Raid Changes Incoming’ blog post ( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/349...ming-9_12_2011 ), we’ll be making the below hotfixes which have gone into effect during today's raid reset.

Normal difficulty

Shannox, Beth’tilac, Rhyolith - health and damage reduced by 15%.
Other bosses - health and damage reduced by 25%.
All adds’ health and damage have been reduced in the same proportions as bosses.
Hellhounds and Unstable Magma deal much less damage.
Alysrazor’s Fiery Tornados move slower.
The Wings of Flame buff duration on Alysrazor is now uniformly 30 seconds.
Alysrazor drops 1 additional feather for 10-player mode and 2 additional feathers for 25-player mode in all cycles.
Wrath of Ragnaros in Stage 1 now knocks targets up, but not back.

Heroic difficulty

Boss health and damage reduced by 15% (Heroic Ragnaros' health has not been reduced.)
All adds’ health and damage have been reduced in the same proportions as bosses. However, Heroic Ragnaros adds have been reduced by 15%.
The Wings of Flame buff duration on Alysrazor is now uniformly 30 seconds.
Alysrazor drops 1 additional feather for 10-player mode and 2 additional feathers for 25-player mode in all cycles.

Stay tuned to the 4.2 Hotfixes blog post as these and other live updates are made to the game: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3019413

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