Random Cataclysm discussion

[Treepulse]

I wish I was in the beta now to see the changes, although I'm on the edge about some of them now.

One obvious change is the same loot from 10 and 25m which makes some people think "Well what's the point of doing 25m then" but I heard something around the line of "We're giving out more loot per person"

The current loot for 10m is around 0.2. It will remain this way but in Cata, 25m will most likely give the same loot but higher per person, like 0.25. This would mean 7 1/2 (pieces of loot) on average per boss. This would be adequete reason to do 25m since more than 1/5th of the raid gets loot from the boss, so everyone gears up faster.

I figure if the bosses are significantly harder, and there's a large jump to Heroic, it won't be that bad of a transition. It'll really depend on how the raiding community depends to take it, because really, the best raiding is done with guilds.

I'm eager to see how this will play out, come early-winter.

Don't think its a bad change, although its going to be a little struggle for some classes to kill Lv83-85 mobs I'd imagine if they were still wearing wotlk gear... before this change Lv85 mobs had 78K hp and 83 around 55K or something...

imagining Lv85 mobs at or around 100K hp now

Go go holy priest 3K smites!

Eh, early quest items blow 251 out of the water. Blue items completely blow 277 out of the water too.

[Siniroth]

Aw, I won't get by on just Corruption-tabbing anymore? QQ

[Meko]

I recently leveled my druid up for feral tanking so the whole "decaying threat" really interests me. I want to see how it pans out for raiding/heroics and if it's going to affect my one button tanking macro that I spam.

[Correction]

My chief concern with 'decaying threat' is that my tanking toons will have an extremely hard time re-training a generation of players from WotLK era who don't do anything but AOE trash packs. Let alone training them to use their fucking CC once in a while and not break it. Heroics are probably going to be TBC-hard, given the current difficulty curve on normal mode.

Personally I wouldn't let anybody hit 81 until they've killed Halion, but that's just me wishing for players who can learn to move, CC and not fuck up for 5 continuous minutes.

[Gulkeeva]

Eh, early quest items blow 251 out of the water. Blue items completely blow 277 out of the water too.

Compared to icc 277's I got no... seems pretty terrible to me. I mean by Lv 83 blues they are starting to look better I guess. But the haste + mastery type stuff is meh... compared to crit and haste or crit and ap where it has a bigger impact then + .4% mastery loosing 1%+ crit and few hundred AP

Course probably need recount but the insane loss in crit just doesn't look good, especially when alot of my stuff does like 6K no crit, and 32K with a crit.

maybe when gear starts getting haste+mastery+crit or something.

[Eanae]

Read prot pally changes and half nerd raged over them. Slaughtering the class so bad.

[Itsnoriss]

maybe when gear starts getting haste+mastery+crit or something.

Is mastery stuff implemented yet?

[Correction]

Is mastery stuff implemented yet?

As far as I can tell it's not.

[Gulkeeva]

For MM its like "increases chance for proc of wild quiver" last I saw it anyway


Also here's a side by side comparison of a ilvl288 vs a 277 icc 25man epic

just looking at the 2... you can see (excluding enchant even) the only real difference is the stam, falls short of crit by a large margin and sockets sort of put it ahead even further.

I've not done any questing in deepholm yet however due to.. well I got lv83 before even getting to the place ;/

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images8tu...310_183352.jpg

anyway this is about the same for all the gear I've found (including instance blues) vs 277 Icc heroic gear.. it just really doesn't compare, probably need ilvl300 to match (and 284 icc 25man heroics probably 312-324 or whatever they come up with)

[Boyiee]

I remember wearing sunwell loot for quite a while into wrath... shouldn't be any different. In fact a lot of 277 gear is harder to get than sunwell gear was to get.

[Tonko]

So my PTR copied Hunter is on top of my Beta character list.

Whenever I log into the PTR now, it locks up. It can't display my hunter at all.

laaaame. I can't do anything on the beta right now.

[Siniroth]

Can't you just be like 'Yo, Ted, delete my hunter for me k?' That being said, that really sucks, hope you get it fixed

[Boyiee]

We're going to have an emergency maint or a new build because of tonko, watch lol.

[LidenbokValour]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...310_144406.jpg

Fucking love what they have done with cataclysm so far, every bit of it.

[Kaylia]

4xt10 on paladin is hot with the new Divine plea. Can keep the 12% evasion bonus up all the time. Probably wont last long, but it's nice at 80.


[edit]

I love the new prot tree. They fixed most issue I had with it last week (still had a shame they had to hit ardent defender with the nerf stick though).

[edit2]

Also, wtf. I died in the great sea and respawned in the barren (I tried to cross the ocean, which wasnt a good idea..I just didnt actually expect to respawn on the other side)

[Meph]

Also, wtf. I died in the great sea and respawned in the barren (I tried to cross the ocean, which wasnt a good idea..I just didnt actually expect to respawn on the other side)

horde?

When you die somewhere youre not supposed to, you respawn in Westfall if you're alliance

[Kaylia]

horde?

When you die somewhere youre not supposed to, you respawn in Westfall if you're alliance

Horde yeah. I respawned in the barren near crossroad outpost.

It's probably the default respawn like you said, I just thought it was funny since I was trying to cross the sea (just wanted to see how far I could go flying) and ended up on the other side.

[Gulkeeva]

Horde yeah. I respawned in the barren near crossroad outpost.

It's probably the default respawn like you said, I just thought it was funny since I was trying to cross the sea (just wanted to see how far I could go flying) and ended up on the other side.

Nothings out in the sea... cept a dead end ;/

I did try flying out to the middle of the world a few times, you will come to an invisible wall/end of the ocean you can't cross.

I did however find a giant skeleton (map overlay) very far south of the world, however you can't swim to it because entering the water = fatigue and I doubt I'd make it to the bottom before I die ;/ (even at 280% speed)

[Boyiee]

wtb pics gulk, I've been lazy and not exploring at all.

[Gulkeeva]

wtb pics gulk, I've been lazy and not exploring at all.

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images8tu...710_003522.jpg

its on the very corner of the great sea ocean (and what I mean by corner is invisible wall/ocean cliff) south of vashj'ir.

Not possible to swim to it unless some heal class wants to go try, see if you can outheal the hp loss rate
(skeleton things on minimap) its the only strange thing I found excluding the edge of the ocean out there i've seen.

Although you can't fly north.. you get dismounted (that and the "sky ceiling" gets closer to the ocean to where you can't fly out any further.. mount only + fatigue)