We've found Noah's Ark!

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Hey bro...
You're cruisin' for a bruisin'

He's a scientist bro, just back off ok.

[Linliel]

He's a scientist bro, just back off ok.

Sounds like he's peeved!

[ZarakiKujata]

http://controversy.wearscience.com/img450/devil.gif

I've gotten some funny looks for wearing this tshirt, both the expected ones from religious nuts who understand I'm making fun of them and from science types who think I'm serious..

edit: Phlow you can be Plow's doppelganger like Priran and Pirian

[Phlow]

edit: Phlow you can be Plow's doppelganger like Priran and Pirian

Oh I'll dopple his gang. If you know what I'm sayin. And I think you do.

[Alleya]

http://controversy.wearscience.com/img450/devil.gif

http://wondermark.com/c/2008-09-19-444tornado.gif

[Eratosthenes]

http://wondermark.com/c/2008-09-19-444tornado.gif

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2..._boobquake.php

NATURAL DISASTERS - UNNATURAL ACTS
Are Natural Disasters Caused by Unnatural Acts?
June 27, 2001
Janis Walworth
Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition, once warned Orlando, Florida, that it was courting natural disaster by allowing gay pride flags to be flown along its streets. "A condition like this will bring about ... earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor," Robertson said.

Apparently he was referring to his belief that the presence of openly gay people incurs divine wrath and that God acts through geological and meteorological events to destroy municipalities that permit gay people the same civil liberties as others.

Before Pat and his Christian cronies get too carried away promulgating the idea that natural disasters are prompted by people who displease God, they should take a hard look at the data.

Tornadoes
Take tornadoes. Every state (except Alaska) has them — some only one or two a year, dozens in others.
Gay people are in every state (even Alaska). According to Pat's hypothesis, there should be more gay people in states that have more tornadoes. But are there?

Nope. In fact, there's no correlation at all between the number of gay folks (as estimated by the number of gay political organizations, support groups, bookstores, radio programs, and circuit parties) and the annual tornado count (r = .04, p = .78 for you statisticians).
So much for the "God hates gays" theory.

God seems almost neutral on the subject of sexual orientation. I say "almost" because if we look at the density of gay groups relative to the population as a whole, there is a small but statistically significant (p = .05) correlation with the occurrence of tornadoes. And it's a negative correlation (r= -.28.)

For those of you who haven't used statistics since 1973, that means that a high concentration of gay organizations actually protects against tornadoes. A state with the population of, say, Alabama could avert two tornadoes a year, merely by doubling the number of gay organizations in the state.

Although God may not care about sexual orientation, the same cannot be said for religious affiliation. If the underlying tenet of Pat's postulate is true — that God wipes out offensive folks via natural disasters — then perhaps we can find some evidence of who's on God's hit list.

Jews are off the hook here: there's no correlation between numbers of Jews and frequency of tornadoes. Ditto for Catholics. But when it comes to Protestants, there's a highly significant correlation of .71.

This means that fully half the state-to-state variation in tornado frequency can be accounted for by the presence of Protestants. And the chance that this association is merely coincidental is only one in 10,000.

Tornados Drawn to Baptists

Protestants, of course, come in many flavors — we were able to find statistics for Lutherans, Methodists, Baptists, and others. Lutherans don't seem to be a problem — no correlation with tornadoes. There's a modest correlation (r = .52, p= .0001) between Methodists and tornadoes.

But Baptists and others share the prize: both groups show a definite correlation with tornado frequency (r = .68, p = .0001). This means that Texas could cut its average of 139 tornadoes per year in half by sending a few hundred thousand Baptists elsewhere (Alaska maybe?). What, you are probably asking yourself, about gay Protestants? An examination of the numbers of gay religious groups (mostly Protestant) reveals no significant relationship with tornadoes.

Perhaps even Protestants are less repugnant to God if they're gay.

And that brings up another point — the futility of trying to save the world by getting gay people to accept Jesus. It looks from our numbers as if the frequency of natural disasters might be more effectively reduced by encouraging Protestants to be gay.

Gay people have been falsely blamed for disasters ever since Sodom was destroyed by fire and brimstone. (We have been unable to find any statistics on disasters involving brimstone).
According to a reliable source, the destruction of Sodom was indeed an act of God (see Genesis 19:13). Its destruction was perpetrated because the citizens thereof were, according to the same source (see Ezekiel 16:49-50) "arrogant, overfed and unconcerned [and] did not help the poor and needy" — not because they were gay.

Now Pat would have us believe that gays are the cause of tornadoes (as well as earthquakes, meteors, and even terrorist bombs) in utter disregard for evidence showing that Baptists are much more likely to cause them.

As any statistician will tell you, of course, correlation doesn't prove causation. Protestants causing tornadoes by angering God isn't the only explanation for these data. It could be that Baptists and other Protestants purposely flock to states that have lots of tornadoes (no, we haven't checked for a correlation between IQ and religious affiliation).

But if Pat and his Christian crew insist that natural disasters are brought on by people who offend God, let the data show who those people are.

Sources: Tornado Occurrence by State, 1962-1991 1990 Churches and Church Membership; Population by State, 1990 US Census; Gay & Lesbian Political Organizations, Support Groups, and Religious Groups from Gayellow Pages, National Edition, 1987.

[Neosutra]

Eratos wins lol.

Love the tornado bit.

Reminds me of the random post I saw today on a physics blog about the Lawrence Livermore "Fusion Laser".

ReligiousNut: "Man, these damn atheists are trying to create their own sun!??! I'm going to laugh so hard when God strikes them all with lightning just as their experiment works!! Too bad God didnt give atheists brains or IQ!!!!!"

I had to read the above quote 4 times before I fathomed the extent of that person's ignorance, and the complete irony of his post.

[Rothbardian]

I wonder what Atheists think of us Deists? Anyways, I always get a chuckle out of the fundies of any divine dogma

And dude, FreeRepublic & Pat Robertson in one thread. Too much, just too much.

[Faris]

Eratos wins lol.

Love the tornado bit.

Reminds me of the random post I saw today on a physics blog about the Lawrence Livermore "Fusion Laser".

ReligiousNut: "Man, these damn atheists are trying to create their own sun!??! I'm going to laugh so hard when God strikes them all with lightning just as their experiment works!! Too bad God didnt give atheists brains or IQ!!!!!"

I had to read the above quote 4 times before I fathomed the extent of that person's ignorance, and the complete irony of his post.

watch you dont jizz all over your keyboard bro.

[Pirian]

watch you dont jizz all over your keyboard bro.

That's what rubber guards are for, bro

[ZarakiKujata]

That's what multiple wives are for, bro

ftfy

[Shenrien]

that shit aint Noah's Ark.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2rqbl9z.png

this shit is Noah's Ark, hell.. Noah may have been one of the very first people to make fun of black people, as seen in his sign.

[Takedown3]

can't u just ask for forgiveness on your deathbed for all the sins you've commited?

i guess u'd be fucked if u were in a car accident where u didnt get the chance

i think ima hedge my bets

[Max™]

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http://faculty.msb.edu/homak/HomaHel...lp/image26.jpg
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[Melena]

Oh I'll dopple his gang. If you know what I'm sayin. And I think you do.

Watch it, god hates homosexuality.

[Kerberoz]

I wonder what Atheists think of us Deists?.

Deist beliefs don't harm/affect others so.. apathy.

[Kuya]

That's not what bothers some atheists. Some atheists would say:

WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN IMAGENARY THINGS? YOU ARE STUPID. STUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

I don't think this forum has this type of atheist though...

[zoobernut]

That's not what bothers some atheists. Some atheists would say:

WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN IMAGENARY THINGS? YOU ARE STUPID. STUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

I don't think this forum has this type of atheist though...

Lol that sounds like a challenge to turn this into another 100+ page thread.

[Alleya]

That's not what bothers some atheists. Some atheists would say:

WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN IMAGENARY THINGS? YOU ARE STUPID. STUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

I don't think this forum has this type of atheist though...

You don't believe those atheists exist on this forum?

STUPID! YOU'RE SO STUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

Spoiler: show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx_UJxuQGXo

[Obev]

Well I reckon believing in imaginary things is pretty bloody stupid, and calls into question your capacities for critical thinking, but we can't all be perfect. So long as you don't fuck with science I tolerate you.