Call of Duty: Black Ops

[Chun Liroy]

Except what doesn't?

Also, "now that it increases footsteps of others? People are going to be gods" No, you'll be exactly where you were when, "I could soundwhore with ninja before this"

You don't suddenly hear things you couldn't before.. it's all just louder now(and who cares if it is louder if you were hearing 100% of it before already?).
And all these people jerking off to "louder enemy footsteps", who obviously can't soundwhore without it, will be using ninja pro. And then you will need UAVs because ninja pro is completely silent and you can't hear them.

BUT THEN EVERYONE HAS GHOST LOL!

This is classic game theory, everyone will use ninja pro because it's the dominant choice.. but nobody will benefit from being able to soundwhore because everyone else is silent too. And that's taking away a huge element of the game.

Edit: I wasn't sure about sitrep pro, but since ninja pro was only .25x sound I only assumed. I'm wrong about that, whatevs; Sitrep pro sucked anyway.

Maybe I should have elaborated. I could soundwhore with ninja in SND. SND is by far the quietest game type in the game. The only way to do it in other game types is to use sitrep, but since I don't have a headset I just use steady aim or something instead. And yeah I agree that everybody will be using ninja. I personally will be running Decoy on nearly all my classes, so... good luck with that UAV lol.

[Thunder]

I only play S/D so I guess I'm always talking about that every time I post. And I don't have a headset either; if I play a respawn-type game idgf about sounds and play music in the background. I'll probably end up just zone-camping some area and faggot my way into chopper gunners.

I think making teammate footsteps silent would be way more sexy than enemies' louder.

And the UAV thing was a pun on what you said in your previous post, bro.

Edit: to elaborate, I think louder enemy footsteps in S/D is going to be more of an annoyance to me when I'm prestiging since it really wont help in games. But I can see it helping in respawn games for discerning between your teammates' and enemies' footsteps.

[Chun Liroy]

I wish they kept the old perks. I'd much rather run through cameras and claymores rather than louder enemy footsteps.

[Insanecyclone]

Zombie black ops stream

http://www.justin.tv/omeganemesis28#/w/515279968/2

He just unlocked an top down shooter like Alien Swarm in it

[Akucaen]

Welp I'm in this round for PC. Pre-ordered and all.

[supercoco]

the question is.. will my ninja cancel other's ninja pro bonus?

[Takedown3]

the assumed thing here is that everyone will run ninja and ghost, the whole problem with that is not everyone now uses the stealth classes so why would it be any different now. If i can start a WAW match with camo/dead silence and get recon im still seeing more then half of the team because they are running with shit like jugg/stopping. sure you are going to have your nin/ghosts but its not gonna b e 9n/g vs 9n/g. well unless you play a horrible mode like SND.

when im playing DOM or TDM or PLEASE GOD PLEASE ADD IT IN WAR i will most likely run n/g but i can gaurentee you right no that when you get that first spy plane in those modes you are going to see more then half the team not running n/g.

[OWS_Tonx]

People in MW2 still don't use Ninja when playing SnD. Y'all are assuming people know what the fuck and will use it instead of some dumbass combination where they chose the 2nd perk in each category just cuz they could

summary: People are stupid, still won't run Ninja, even though it is fucking sex this time.

[Mjd]

Sit Rep Pro is more sex than Ninja Pro ever was.

the question is.. will my ninja cancel other's ninja pro bonus?

Won't matter because of all the background noises. (Someone said this before).

[Chun Liroy]

People in MW2 still don't use Ninja when playing SnD. Y'all are assuming people know what the fuck and will use it instead of some dumbass combination where they chose the 2nd perk in each category just cuz they could

summary: People are stupid, still won't run Ninja, even though it is fucking sex this time.

Sure, but the tier 3 perks are fairly balanced in my opinion. All of them are pretty good except for like... second chance. Sitrep, Ninja, steady aim (why do I feel like I'm missing one...) are all fairly balanced, whereas in this game? All of them could be useful but Ninja just blows them all out of the water. Sure I'll be using Hacker, Tact Mask etc. on a few of my classes, but Ninja is bread and butter.

And to answer to thing about ghost: Stopping Power. In those two games you mentioned, stopping power was king. Now in this game, there's no stopping power and the benefits from ghost are so huge compared to moving a little faster, having a little more ammo or taking less damage from already weak explosives. Which is why I liked the old perk list, they seemed a lot more balanced than the current ones. Ghost would only be useful against UAV, and not killstreaks etc. Ninja pro (walk through claymores etc) was balanced because you could choose that, or you could choose hacker and see and avoid the claymores or turn them on their maker. Hipfire in this game is also insanely accurate, it's going to be stupid. This game needs more recoil and less damage.

[Mjd]

Last Stand Pro was amazing in certain situations.

Akimbo pistols or Raffikas with SPP I would be able to get one to two kills or drop down with a frag grenade. Kill myself and whoever else but also stop them from getting kills. (I use this in Ground Wars a lot).

Ghost doesn't work with killstreaks, Ghost Pro does.

Wait...Ninja Pro walks through claymores?



Edit: I have the strange feeling that I should hold on to MW2.

[Chun Liroy]

Ghost doesn't work with killstreaks, Ghost Pro does.

Wait...Ninja Pro walks through claymores?

The ghost perk used to be not detected on UAV, pro was no red cross hair. Then they changed it to not detected by aircraft etc.

Ninja used to be silent footsteps, pro was walk through claymores and camera spikes/motion detectors undetected. Changed pro to completely silent/increased footsteps.

[Mjd]

Ahhh ok, I didn't pay attention to some of the old pros before.


DERP.

Edit: Give me teh site wit a lot of infos

[Chun Liroy]

Should be somewhere on the last few pages, or could just check the wiki.

Offtopic: but where is that aziz pic from?

[Aeowin]

People in MW2 still don't use Ninja when playing SnD. Y'all are assuming people know what the fuck and will use it instead of some dumbass combination where they chose the 2nd perk in each category just cuz they could

summary: People are stupid, still won't run Ninja, even though it is fucking sex this time.

Fucking this. Like dumb asses running around with steady aim assault rifles.

And no, sit rep pro is quite honestly pointless because anyone with a headset (even a 10 dollar one) or surround sound can sound whore people without sit rep. And not using ninja pro and getting sound whored myself is stupid.

[loyaltrekie]

Ahhh ok, I didn't pay attention to some of the old pros before.


DERP.

Edit: Give me teh site wit a lot of infos

http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/multiplayer/perks

Should be up to date.

If you want 'fo shizzle confirmation' there are screenshots of the create a class screens in this post;

http://forums.digitalwarfare247.com/...ost__p__533508

[Mjd]

Should be somewhere on the last few pages, or could just check the wiki.

Offtopic: but where is that aziz pic from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5vlYYqnXVo

Fucking this. Like dumb asses running around with steady aim assault rifles.

And no, sit rep pro is quite honestly pointless because anyone with a headset (even a 10 dollar one) or surround sound can sound whore people without sit rep. And not using ninja pro and getting sound whored myself is stupid.

I like to throw grenades at claymore. Out of 10 Classes 3 have Ninja 6 have Sit Rep and 1 has Last Stand Pro. It also might just be my and my shitty headphones but sometimes I have problems hearing footsteps with ninja pro on.

http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/multiplayer/perks

Should be up to date.

If you want 'fo shizzle confirmation' there are screenshots of the create a class screens in this post;

http://forums.digitalwarfare247.com/...ost__p__533508

TYVM

[Thunder]

the assumed thing here is that everyone will run ninja and ghost, the whole problem with that is not everyone now uses the stealth classes so why would it be any different now. If i can start a WAW match with camo/dead silence and get recon im still seeing more then half of the team because they are running with shit like jugg/stopping. sure you are going to have your nin/ghosts but its not gonna b e 9n/g vs 9n/g. well unless you play a horrible mode like SND.

when im playing DOM or TDM or PLEASE GOD PLEASE ADD IT IN WAR i will most likely run n/g but i can gaurentee you right no that when you get that first spy plane in those modes you are going to see more then half the team not running n/g.

You still haven't said why 2 attachments > deep impact/less flinching or faster reloading/faster ADS.

Cold blooded sucked in other games because you had to drop stopping power. It rocked for UMP in MW2 because SP didn't affect its long range damage, but that's it.

Also S/D rocks your god damn socks off, man.

@other posts, people will of course choose some stupid perk combinations like warlord but in MW2 the default looked kind of like Sleight/SP/steady aim or commando. Now it's more like.. lightweight/sleight of hand/ninja. Meh, maybe I am over thinking it because hacker looks nice and people who didn't value silent footsteps in MW2 wont value it in BO.

[Chun Liroy]

Oh man amazon prime free release date delivery :3

FNH that's me requesting you btw. semi offtopic.

[fren.]

Holy fuck, Barebones Domination!?

e: any info on the theater mode? last I heard it was gonna be available to only those on your friends list, not sure if they're gonna allow uploads. That would suck big balls.