[Ifrit] VNM Farming

[Airenn]

When: Monday 7PM - 10PM EST


I am currently looking to start a small VNM farming shell on Mondays. I have a core group of about 6-10 Members right now and looking for a few more to hit 12-18.

We will be a point based group, and while I am very serious about this, it is not a mandatory event. (Depending on the next few turnouts, this may change if people tend not to show but be online.)

Currently looking for all jobs as most of us can be on any of the more vital jobs right now.

The premise is that you farm the T1's yourself and get 1 pt for every T1 farmed.

For every T2 you kill with the group, you get 2 pts.
For every T3 with the group, you get 3pts.
And for every Yilbegan we kill, it is 4pts.

T2 Items cost 20pts.
T3 Items cost 40pts.
T4 Items cost 60pts.

You may lot with a person via a 20pt spread. (Lotting on the next couple runs may put you in the negative as we do not have many pts to begin with, obviously.)

Example: Airenn has 60 pts and Tabbie has 39 pts. Airenn can lot Karka ring, but Tabbie cannot.

It is 1 item per night, unless something completely rots to the floor.

Protip: You get to pick which path you'd like to do, but beware that if you are not 20pts in the lead for the item you want, others may lot on it, too.

Sellables will be sold and split to the members who came that night.

PM Me here, or contact Airenn or Tabbie in game if interested.

Thanks!

[Aurara]

Just curious, what if you were to farm a T3 on your own time and then present it to the ls? Would you be the only person lotting that ring, or would others have the ability to lot along with you as well?

[Airenn]

Just curious, what if you were to farm a T3 on your own time and then present it to the ls? Would you be the only person lotting that ring, or would others have the ability to lot along with you as well?

I am currently debating this. Many of the T2's T3's are low-manable and can be done in people's own time.

I am thinking that if you so choose to do those in your own time, you would still be using Shell points and lotting rules.

Most of this shell is via people that aren't going to be doing them in their own time, so there won't be any worries.

But, like Nickie -- She's in CT and will probably get some done in her own time. If she was to present a T4 pop to us, I think I would follow our rules (being that you use pts to lot, and a 20pt spread to lot over people) to make it fairer to everyone.

That's the risk one like you or her would take -- Either pop it with us and use our rules, or pop with CT and use their rules. I don't see VNMs as being merc-able.

[Aurara]

I am thinking that if you so choose to do those in your own time, you would still be using Shell points and lotting rules.

This doesnt seem very fair to people who dont need a group of people to do T1/2 and solo up to T3 and then come to ls.

Most of this shell is via people that aren't going to be doing them in their own time, so there won't be any worries.

There might not be, but what if they do?

But, like Nickie -- She's in CT and will probably get some done in her own time. If she was to present a T4 pop to us, I think I would follow our rules (being that you use pts to lot, and a 20pt spread to lot over people) to make it fairer to everyone.

What's your idea of fair? Because this sounds like "hey, nobody helped farm this T4 Nickie, you have to lot against others who did nothing and will benefit"

That's the risk one like you or her would take -- Either pop it with us and use our rules, or pop with CT and use their rules. I don't see VNMs as being merc-able.

It's quite silly. Our rules are you get 1 item from your pop, and rest is freelot. We dont use pts for VNM, heck we dont even do them as LS events and do them w/e in ls.

I'm not saying your group wont work out, im just addressing issues that may come up if you dont handle them now.

[Airenn]

This doesnt seem very fair to people who dont need a group of people to do T1/2 and solo up to T3 and then come to ls.



There might not be, but what if they do?



What's your idea of fair? Because this sounds like "hey, nobody helped farm this T4 Nickie, you have to lot against others who did nothing and will benefit"



It's quite silly. Our rules are you get 1 item from your pop, and rest is freelot. We dont use pts for VNM, heck we dont even do them as LS events and do them w/e in ls.

I'm not saying your group wont work out, im just addressing issues that may come up if you dont handle them now.

I think the basis is that we will be doing this AS a group and not really outside. Everyone I have talked to has expressed no interest in taking this outside the Monday Time Slot. So, for now, I don't have to worry about it. If I did, it would be something I can ask everyone about.

The second thing is, that BEING in this LS and going as a group, you would be building the points. Then, if you run with the group and help out, accumulate points, and then still farm a T4 on your own, you'd get the 3 pts from having a T3 pop done, and still be using group points to lot the T4.

As for people that solo up to a T3 on their own-- We aren't a merc shell. If people want to come to the shell with a T3, then they can sit on that pop set until they accrue points to lot. They won't be forced to use their set until they feel like it.

As for your LS doing it that way -- That's CT, not us. We're going to be working as a group, a team, and it will benefit everyone so long as they are putting in effort.

[Thorny]

your shell sucks and your rules suck

[NervosaEternal]

I like my ls cause its your pop your drops, vnm aint serious enough to be making items pointlottable, and your ls sounds like a good way to work for absolutely nothing, considering ppl can lot on rings that havent done jack. fix rules.


<xxplayerxx> farmed my own yilbegan alone, we can pop it!
<LS> all right lesgo!

whack whack whack, maybe possible wipe~

<LSleader> ok blablabla you have 9584854 points, and xxplayerxx, i know this was your pop and we did absolutely nothing to help you obtain it, but you cant lot due to you have 9 points. sorry bro, points for vnm items are serious business.

[Airenn]

This is a small bump --

We are still looking for 2-4 more people. Pretty much all jobs are welcome as we have everything base covered.


Updated rules are:

If you farm a T3 - You have to use points to lot the item, but you DO get to pick an item of your choice and be the only lotter.

We had our first official night last night with a turnout of 11 people and a TH4 Mule.

We are up a Blue, Blue, Yellow, Orange, and a Black Abyssite.

We will be doing Krab > Yilbegan > Blob > Krab next Monday.

If you are interested, hit me up here or in tells!

[Mistystarx]

mistystarx is my name on ifrit im on during the morning and the day but will get on at night to do events. im looking for event ls's for cop, sky, and dyna atm.