Indian Man Claims to have not eaten in 70 years.

[Khajit]

The fact that he has not died from dehydration, malnutrition, or overexpenditure of all of the energy reserves in his body defies all laws of biology.

In short, I'm still calling bullshit.

So instead of having the guy teach people how to do his "trick" in order to become astronauts and eventually force them to recreate the scenario under even more rigidly controlled conditions than the original test which would debunk it the instant they had 3~4 weeks of being locked in a mock space shuttle for training you would rather just say bullshit instead of scientifically proving it's the bullshit you say it is?
While hes obviously getting the food/nourishment from somewhere him lasting the 2 weeks proves that he needs LESS than a normal person which is still useful but everyone here seems to intent on mocking the guy to consider what what we have observed so far really could be useful.

[Max™]

Anyone with a normal human sized frame holding 80 lbs of flesh, and meditating constantly, will need less food than normal.

That is pretty obvious, I can meditate and eliminate hunger pains/itches/aches/temperature discomfort and I've only been doing breathing exercises and shit for a handful of years.

Doesn't make me able to actually not be hungry, just exert myself to ignore my body saying "HEY ASSHOLE, I'M GOING TO BE DAMAGED IF YOU DON'T STOP THIS" for a bit longer.

The best method to get us into space for long durations is simply replacing our physiology with a better one, you think Kuze from GiTS would have trouble on a space flight?

[Mayareira]

I bet fucker is eating a 20oz Sirloin now.

[wagon]

In related news, david blaine was last seen in a JFK terminal connected to a flight to India.

[Zilong]

The best method to get us into space for long durations is simply replacing our physiology with a better one, you think Kuze from GiTS would have trouble on a space flight?

So when can we expect to develop Newtype powers?

[Max™]

Oh shit, Gundam, didn't catch the reference.

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[Benevolentone]

I have no idea if this is significant/strange/difficult but when I went to Bonnaroo last year I went 5 days without taking a shit. I ate normally for the most part during that time but I just would not use those disgusting portapotty things so I just didn't sit on them ever. I did pee during that time so I can't imagine going days without doing that but yeah. But man was that a nice shit once I got to that waffle house afterwords.

[Pirian]

I have no idea if this is significant/strange/difficult but when I went to Bonnaroo last year I went 5 days without taking a shit. I ate normally for the most part during that time but I just would not use those disgusting portapotty things so I just didn't sit on them ever. I did pee during that time so I can't imagine going days without doing that but yeah. But man was that a nice shit once I got to that waffle house afterwords.

That's called constipation, and is a common side effect from most of the drugs present at Bonnaroo

[kuronosan]

So instead of having the guy teach people how to do his "trick" in order to become astronauts and eventually force them to recreate the scenario under even more rigidly controlled conditions than the original test which would debunk it the instant they had 3~4 weeks of being locked in a mock space shuttle for training you would rather just say bullshit instead of scientifically proving it's the bullshit you say it is?
While hes obviously getting the food/nourishment from somewhere him lasting the 2 weeks proves that he needs LESS than a normal person which is still useful but everyone here seems to intent on mocking the guy to consider what what we have observed so far really could be useful.

Not sure if trollan'.

To answer your question, yes. I would rather just say bullshit. And, I would also like to prove it scientifically in a publicly-controlled environment where rigged scientists aren't observing him.

Contemplate this, for a moment, if you would. For him to age and exhibit normal metabolic processes, his mitochondria have to synthesize ATP. In order to do this, his body has to obtain electrolytes - two necessary ones being potassium and sodium - in order to maintain orthostatic pressure within the body.

The other component to maintaining this pressure is water. Water isn't synthesized from nothingness and neither are minerals. If the body isn't getting the water it needs, the kidneys have to remove the waste somehow... or he goes into metabolic acidosis and dehydration. Nutrients don't get made out of thin air, and even considering for a moment that he was recycling his own body material (which means drinking your own urine and eating your own feces) in order to catalyze these reactions, he could not maintain it for 70 years.

This is a metabolic impossibility. You don't need to conduct extensive research to know it's full of shit. Even if he says he isn't eating anything, he has to drink something. Your body is constantly excreting water as it builds up waste. It doesn't just 'recycle' your water. The kidneys do not work that way.

Now, if for some reason, he was able to overcome that, and they studied him extensively without food or water for several weeks, immediately did a blood tox screen and blood chemical analysis and the results were perfectly normal and within acceptable range, I would believe it.

I find it sincerely hard to believe that meditation and good will of rainbows will magically make your body's chemistry miraculously alter itself and defeat the need for food and nourishment. He is getting his nutrients from somewhere and it's not from thin air.

[Cyn]

That's called constipation, and is a common side effect from most of the drugs present at Bonnaroo

No it's not... have you actually SEEN (smelled?) the porta johns at Bonnaroo? Jesus Christ, even coming within 200' is enough to convince you it's better to hold it.

Not sure if trollan'.

That's how I feel about you. Nobody else on this forum can hold a candle to you when it comes to close-minded ignorance.

[Plow]

I find it sincerely hard to believe that meditation and good will of rainbows will magically make your body's chemistry miraculously alter itself and defeat the need for food and nourishment. He is getting his nutrients from somewhere and it's not from thin air.

Well duh, if it's filled with brain nectar it's obviously pretty thick air.

[Psion]

It could be that he's cheating somehow.

It could be he's lying about 70 years of non eating, but he was able to maintain his weight and health for two weeks thanks to meditation, which can certainly make your body perform feats normal people can only dream of.

It could be that somehow, he's telling the truth and he's sustained by only energy somehow.

It could be that his ability to meditate is subconsciously using psychokinesis to absorb nutrients and moisture from the air to sustain himself.

It could be that the scientists are lying.

There's a lot of possibilities, but one shouldn't automatically dismiss it as a farce simply because it's a scientific impossibility. Today's impossibility is tomorrow's physics after all. It could be a fraud, or it could be he's using some mechanism that is either unknown to science currently, or a unexpected possibility from mechanisms we already know. I for one am skeptical that he managed to do this. Note however, I said skeptical, not cynical. This means I am undecided, and am willing to hear evidence on all sides of a story and weigh it accordingly. A cynic, on the other hand, rejects anything that does not fall into the realm of what we know, making them worse than useless.

There's a lot of evidence out there that shows that psychokinesis and other ESP like abilities exist, but due to the implications of what it would mean if real, the scientific community at large goes into a complete berserk state the second parapsychology is mentioned, despite many experiments being replicated in other studies, and major efforts made to make sure that no cheating is involved. It wasn't always that way, and the origins of parapsychology gave it a bad stink that lasts to this day, even though current protocols make many other fields standards look puny by comparison.

Basically, there is evidence from many studies that show that ESP and PK almost certainly exist according to independent statisticians, and that if parapsychology had been any other field of science, they would be considered scientific fact by now. The main difficulty of parapsychology is that you're dealing with something that is incredibly complicated, as it involves psychology, biology, chemistry, physics, and how they all interact with each other. Not only that, every person is different, and their ability to influence things with mind-matter interactions also varies by individual. And because the vast majority of people are untrained in trying to use PK/ESP, its basically like asking a bunch of newborn babies to lift 20 lb weights, when their muscles aren't developed enough to even budge it. (except maybe in rare cases. Them babies, they be monsters after all...) However, creative individuals, those who practice meditation or actively train in PK/ESP, and those who believe in psi abilities perform vastly better than the majority of people who have no experience in such things, and those who disbelieve in psi abilities and have the mindset nothing will happen, get significant results... negative results. This is known as the sheep-goat effect, which is a major problem that drags down overall statistics to only a small (but significant over a large amount of trials) deviation from chance. Studies conducted with only creative, trained individuals achieve much higher results overall.

Then there's another problem in the field, which is that of the scientists themselves. If the scientists are open minded or believe, they will probably influence the experiment positively... if they are cynical, they can cause interference in the experiment, lowering overall results. Think of it as everyone emitting waves. If the waves are aligned, they grow stronger as the energies combine. If they are in interference, where the peak of one wave hits the trough of the other, they weaken. This also is an counter-argument against the common argument by cynics, of how casinos would go broke if psi existed, because everyone would be using their ability to win. The problem with this logic, is that A)everyone would be essentially competing against each other, canceling each other out and leaving around chance results, unless someone was VERY strong and could overpower everyone else.
B)Casino machines aren't exactly 50/50 winnings, and would not be easily influenced like a normal random number generator would be.
C)Casinos ban people who win too often. >_>

So yeah, that stuff about the Secret and all that? Possibly a germ of truth to it, but good luck trying to win the lotto by wishing for it when millions of others are doing the exact same thing. But trying to influence a person's body to heal itself? Trying to divine danger before it happens? Trying to stop a radiometer with mental effort? If you have the mental strength built up (and provided all the evidence toward psi abilities is not one gigantic fluke, which seems highly doubtful considering how much evidence it has), then there's probably no one who is wanting to interfere with such things, and you can do them provided you know what your doing.

This study could either be more fuel for the cynics to throw at parapsychology, or it could be the spark that causes it to be considered a respectable branch of science. Or maybe it will be forgotten and nothing changes. Who knows? But I for one, am willing to keep an open mind toward parapsychology as actual science, which seems to be more than most so called scientists these days can do.

[Blarg]

yes, that makes sense

[Kuya]

Dear god, why does every shmuck think that "open mindedness" means giving the time of day to every fart that enters your window.

[Max™]

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Today's physics is yesterdays physics btw, we're still trying to figure out shit from the early 1900's, no one is going to be finding the psi-wave, and Akira is not going to be the future.

I know, I wanted badass telekinetic abilities too, we all did... it's ok.

[Priran]

It could be that his ability to meditate is subconsciously using psychokinesis to absorb nutrients and moisture from the air to sustain himself.

No it couldn't, you're a moron.

[Valkrish]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8444/the20end.jpg

A+

I love it, fantastic.

[Mizango]

I'm learning that Psion isn't very good at this whole thinking thing. Isn't he the one that posted that rubbish in the LHC thread about paranormal stuff or something? It was so facepalm that I didn't bother to remember it.

[Ohemgee]

Or maybe the air in india is so thick, that it collectively transforms in to food molecules when it contacts his skin!

[Max™]

Pollution + Meditation = No eating!