Teacher goes to jail for fucking a student

[Furtwangler]

But oh wait--homosexuality is wrong and bad. I forgot.

Now you're talkin'

[Antithesis]

But oh wait--homosexuality is wrong and bad. I forgot.

Even the pedophiles agree.

[Khamsin]

And women aren't? You are making some very grand and very wrong assumptions about the nature of sexuality in order to support your argument. Why is it OK for boys to fuck whatever they want, but not girls? Hint: it has nothing to do with biology, as it is a purely social issue, evidenced by the greatly varied approaches of other cultures to this same question.

Not that I support the use of this particular argument for this issue, since I agree about the social factor playing a larger role, but as an aside... I always figured females (in the animal kingdom in general) tried to make it hard for males to mate with them so only the strongest succeeded. I hadn't thought that females were as promiscuous as males, considering that males can spread their seed to any number of females to increase the chances of their genes being passed on, whereas females give birth to only a limited number of offspring during their lifetime and try to make sure only the best genes get passed on.

[antihero]

if a key opens lots of locks, then its a master key, but if a lock gets opened by lots of keys, then it's just a shitty lock

[Alleya]

I would reccomend reading The Moral Animal by Robert Wright. He explains the female mating habits of several different species in wonderful and very accessible detail. Females do not play hard to get, they seek out males with the best attributes. Cuckoldry and adultery are common even in extremely "monogamous" species. It behooves both males and females equally to mate as much as possible.

[Sylvrdragon]

Good to see that you personally know the young man involved and have objectively determined his sexual maturity. Also it's impressive that you have worked out all the complexities of his relationship with the teacher and determined that she was not abusing her power in an obviously unbalanced relationship, and was not exploiting his immaturity or adolescent foibles. I suppose one of the benefits of having a pedophilic relationship with an older woman is that sex is the only possible outcome, and it is exempt from the mental, emotional, and developmental problems inherent in other forms of pedophilia that are not as fucking sweet as banging your teacher.



And women aren't? You are making some very grand and very wrong assumptions about the nature of sexuality in order to support your argument. Why is it OK for boys to fuck whatever they want, but not girls? Hint: it has nothing to do with biology, as it is a purely social issue, evidenced by the greatly varied approaches of other cultures to this same question.





OK. So? I don't see how this makes it OK for a woman to engage in pedophilia. By the same tack, a priest having a sexual relationship with a boy is also OK because all that matters is the actual maturity of the boy. But oh wait--homosexuality is wrong and bad. I forgot. Or maybe sex isn't the only thing involved in pedophilia.

/sigh. Addressing your comments in reverse order:

I never said it was "Ok". It's illegal, and for good reasons (funny, I'm sure that I said this several times). Maybe I missed it, but I don't think anyone in this thread is feeling sorry for the teacher.

You're right that I am making a couple assumptions about the kid, but then, so are you. You seem to assume that the kid is emotionally distraught and scarred for life. I say that you are projecting, and that, being a women, you are less qualified to judge how this situation will affect him. I say it's much more likely that he was welcomed back to class with grins/cheers and high-fives by his male peers and that he will look back on this time with fondness as many people in this very thread to whom similar situations have occured have apparently done.

The many many posts by men in this thread agreeing with this sentiment and expressing a wish that a similar situation had happened to them lends substantial support to my statement. I say that it is no coincidence that the ones most opposed to this view are women. This is why I prefaced my initial post on this line with

This thread is all the proof that I'll ever need that women don't understand men what-so-ever.

I don't know how to be more concise than this. I can't spell it out any more clearly. People keep making my posts about things that I never said. I tried really hard to avoid mentioning a lack of reading comprehension, but I can't think of any other way to say it. Context is important.

[Alleya]

lol your blatant sexism shows pretty readily here, willing to dismiss my whole argument because of gender.

Thanks for proving my point about double standards I guess.

[Sylvrdragon]

I have to get ready for work now, so any further discussion on my part will have to wait till tonight or tomorrow. It's not my desire for the discussion to become confrontational, but I fear that's the direction it is heading. I'll try very hard not to make it personal.

[Sylvrdragon]

lol your blatant sexism shows pretty readily here, willing to dismiss my whole argument because of gender.

Thanks for proving my point about double standards I guess.

I've got a minute to address that statement at least. Absent of an expert, for a situation regarding women, I would defer to another woman's opinion. It makes sense to lend a bit more weight to a man's opinion regarding issues concerning men. In the absence of a mechanic, do you take the word of a licensed driver or a life-long pedestrian? Nobody has thrown any credential out on the field, so I assume that we're all laymen here.

I never said anybody was right or wrong based on gender. What I said was

The many many posts by men in this thread agreeing with this sentiment and expressing a wish that a similar situation had happened to them lends substantial support to my statement.

[Plow]

lol your blatant sexism shows pretty readily here, willing to dismiss my whole argument because of gender.

Thanks for proving my point about double standards I guess.

hypocrisy, on my bg?

why I never...

[Ksandra]

This thread is all the proof that I'll ever need that women don't understand men what-so-ever.

I've got a minute to address that statement at least. Absent of an expert, for a situation regarding women, I would defer to another woman's opinion. It makes sense to lend a bit more weight to a man's opinion regarding issues concerning men. In the absence of a mechanic, do you take the word of a licensed driver or a life-long pedestrian? Nobody has thrown any credential out on the field, so I assume that we're all laymen here.

The fact you're arguing this with Alleya is so funny, and I'm starting to think you don't know.

[Plow]

The fact you're arguing this with Alleya is so funny, and I'm starting to think you don't know.

I think you wooshed yourself.

I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure he's saying, basically, "Yeah, you can judge just fine from a woman's perspective, but don't you think the men would have a better idea of how teenage guys are looking at it?"

[Sylvrdragon]

I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure he's saying, basically, "Yeah, you can judge just fine from a woman's perspective, but don't you think the men would have a better idea of how teenage guys are looking at it?"

Yes. This is what I am trying (and I guess failing) to say.

Also, I don't know a single thing about Alleya, so you're probably correct in saying that I don't know. I believe my only assumption was that Alleya is female. If that's wrong, I apologize.

[Gorki]

Plow your sig looks as if its reading your post, i cant stop laughing.

ontopic: my sophomore year in HS we had a GIRL GET PREGNANT! crazy right?

[Pirian]

I believe my only assumption was that Alleya is female.

Totally sporting a dick.

[Cyn]

Plow your sig looks as if its reading your post, i cant stop laughing.

ontopic: my sophomore year in HS we had a GIRL GET PREGNANT! crazy right?

Nonsense, black people can't read.

[Plow]

Nonsense, black people can't read.

it was originally swapped so it looked like the avatar was looking at what's the sig now, but the sig would break pages unless I made it too small

[Deadgye]

Just stop. You keep taking everything I say out of context. I never said two High Schoolers shouldn't date. I said a teacher shouldn't date their student. You aren't reading what I write and coming up with your own things to claim "bullshit". Just stop now. It's retarded and unnecessary.

You apparently don't pay attention to anything when you post, as you reply to topics and then claim you weren't talking about said topic when people poke holes in what you were saying.

I responded specifically to someone calling the person a pedophile, saying it's not pedophilia. You said "It's having sex with a minor which is disgusing no matter what you want to label it as." In response I brought up the 17 year old dating a 16 year old. That has nothing to do with teaching figures. If you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, then don't try to argue with me.

You seem to forget that even three years is a lot of experience to gain. You're just entering the game at 15 or 16. You probably know how to play it by the time you're 20 or 21.

You're off by about 2 years, possibly more if anything has changed since I left middle school.

tl;dr: Illegal means it's wrong. That's why it's a law.

:facepalm: The two don't always go hand in hand together. I wish people would come to realise this. In most cases, there's nothing wrong with a 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old, but it's still illegal. There's nothing irresponsible about it either.

I suppose one of the benefits of having a pedophilic relationship with an older woman is that sex is the only possible outcome, and it is exempt from the mental, emotional, and developmental problems inherent in other forms of pedophilia that are not as fucking sweet as banging your teacher.

Blah blah blah blah I have no clue what I'm talking about blah blah blah blah. I'm sorry, that's all I got out of that.

[Furtwangler]

You apparently don't pay attention to anything when you post, as you reply to topics and then claim you weren't talking about said topic when people poke holes in what you were saying.

I responded specifically to someone calling the person a pedophile, saying it's not pedophilia. You said "It's having sex with a minor which is disgusing no matter what you want to label it as." In response I brought up the 17 year old dating a 16 year old. That has nothing to do with teaching figures. If you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, then don't try to argue with me.



You're off by about 2 years, possibly more if anything has changed since I left middle school.



:facepalm: The two don't always go hand in hand together. I wish people would come to realise this. In most cases, there's nothing wrong with a 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old, but it's still illegal. There's nothing irresponsible about it either.



Blah blah blah blah I have no clue what I'm talking about blah blah blah blah. I'm sorry, that's all I got out of that.

ouch

[Alleya]

Blah blah blah blah I have no clue what I'm talking about blah blah blah blah. I'm sorry, that's all I got out of that.

Your rhetorical style is devastating. Truly you have dismantled my argument with your evidence and logic.