Pretty sure my account got hacked.

[Cephius]

right, but you're also a complete fucking moron (obviously.) if you don't realize that keyloggers are always being updated. ALWAYS. Where as an authenticator is never being updated. NEVER. The first one to "crack" an authenticator wasn't too long ago, before long most of the new ones will have the same shit in them. if you have an authenticator and have something on your PC it's because you got an old keylogger, that's just how it is. DERP DERP. fucking morons

What the hell are you talking about? The authenticator wasn't "cracked". Cracked implies that someone figured out how to manipulate the sequence of numbers that it spits out and could get into someone's account without having do anything to the victim's machine. What the 'crack' actually is, is a virus that intercepts the code before it gets to blizzard, locking you out of your own account and giving the attacker a chance to login with the real code. The authenticator isn't getting hacked, the user's machine is. Otherwise known as... a man in the middle attack. Which is exactly what Norellicus said.

So next time, do a little reading before you talk shit about something you clearly know nothing about.

[Ohaigaiz]

right, but you're also a complete fucking moron (obviously.) if you don't realize that keyloggers are always being updated. ALWAYS. Where as an authenticator is never being updated. NEVER. The first one to "crack" an authenticator wasn't too long ago, before long most of the new ones will have the same shit in them. if you have an authenticator and have something on your PC it's because you got an old keylogger, that's just how it is. DERP DERP. fucking morons

first of all, pseudorandom number generators don't get updated. you're stating that because keyloggers get updated and the blizzard authenticator doesn't it's more prone to an attack? and you claim for others to be a moron... oh man. second of all, a computer riddled with viruses will be keylogged or hacked or whatever. what an authenticator does is simply give you an extra layer of protection. you can't get phished or keylogged with an authenticator. they might have your password and email, but they can't login. only if someone has keylogged your computer and knows your information and is watching in real time as you login are you prone to being hacked. it's as simple as that.

shut the fuck up, you're a goddamn idiot.

[Norellicus]

Edit: Weird, I'm positive I didn't just leave this thread open yet I somehow missed 20 minutes of posts. Cephius already said anything I would so disregard

[Katlan]

this thread has gone in an awesome direction

Spoiler: show

derp

[Siniroth]

looks like i'm using it correctly if that was directed at me ^-^

Nah I'm pretty sure he was talking to the people who are like "AUTHENTICATOR CAN STILL BE HACKED DERP DERP http://images.bluegartr.com/forum/im...ns/mmithra.png"

This, my bad, I made the cardinal sin of posting after getting home from night shift and decided to ignore usernames except for the first one I could see that fit my need, derp

[[Cookies]]

right, but you're also a complete fucking moron (obviously.) if you don't realize that keyloggers are always being updated. ALWAYS. Where as an authenticator is never being updated. NEVER. The first one to "crack" an authenticator wasn't too long ago, before long most of the new ones will have the same shit in them. if you have an authenticator and have something on your PC it's because you got an old keylogger, that's just how it is. DERP DERP. fucking morons

The authenticator wasn't cracked... The only way to get past it is to use a keylogger and log in before the authenticator code expires. You also have to prevent the user logging in somehow.

[The Blackrose]

right, but you're also a complete fucking moron (obviously.) if you don't realize that keyloggers are always being updated. ALWAYS. Where as an authenticator is never being updated. NEVER. The first one to "crack" an authenticator wasn't too long ago, before long most of the new ones will have the same shit in them. if you have an authenticator and have something on your PC it's because you got an old keylogger, that's just how it is. DERP DERP. fucking morons

Go fucking derp derp yourself, you clueless moron. If anyone managed to crack the pseudorandom algorithm inside an authenticator fob, that person would be made for life or knocked off. Especially considering more than just some random MMOs use these fobs. Ceph is on the ball here.

[D44kpunk]

What the hell are you talking about? The authenticator wasn't "cracked". Cracked implies that someone figured out how to manipulate the sequence of numbers that it spits out and could get into someone's account without having do anything to the victim's machine. What the 'crack' actually is, is a virus that intercepts the code before it gets to blizzard, locking you out of your own account and giving the attacker a chance to login with the real code. The authenticator isn't getting hacked, the user's machine is. Otherwise known as... a man in the middle attack. Which is exactly what Norellicus said.

So next time, do a little reading before you talk shit about something you clearly know nothing about.

first thing you clueless fucking retard, i know exactly what it does, why the fuck do you think i put the "" around crack? it's just easier than saying "YA LOL IT SENDS THE CODE TO THE MIM AND GIVES YOU AN ERROR SAYING THAT YOU TYPED IT IN WRONG" was that really that hard? go read around everyone is calling it an authenticator "crack".

guess there's no need to reply to what the rest of you said, since you said the same thing as this tool.

read up, on blizzard forums, mmo, ej. they all are calling it then authenticator "crack" thus thats the fucking term i used you mindless fucking droids.

[Correction]

first thing you clueless fucking retard, i know exactly what it does, why the fuck do you think i put the "" around crack? it's just easier than saying "YA LOL IT SENDS THE CODE TO THE MIM AND GIVES YOU AN ERROR SAYING THAT YOU TYPED IT IN WRONG" was that really that hard? go read around everyone is calling it an authenticator "crack".

guess there's no need to reply to what the rest of you said, since you said the same thing as this tool.

read up, on blizzard forums, mmo, ej. they all are calling it then authenticator "crack" thus thats the fucking term i used you mindless fucking droids.

Just....stop

please.

[D44kpunk]

all i posted was the basic truth, that an authenticator won't save you. sorry if that's a hard concept to grasp =(

[Cephius]

first thing you clueless fucking retard, i know exactly what it does, why the fuck do you think i put the "" around crack? it's just easier than saying "YA LOL IT SENDS THE CODE TO THE MIM AND GIVES YOU AN ERROR SAYING THAT YOU TYPED IT IN WRONG" was that really that hard? go read around everyone is calling it an authenticator "crack".

guess there's no need to reply to what the rest of you said, since you said the same thing as this tool.

read up, on blizzard forums, mmo, ej. they all are calling it then authenticator "crack" thus thats the fucking term i used you mindless fucking droids.

Ok mr genius, if you're so much smarter than us, then would mind telling us what the point of your post was if you knew what the exploit was? Why did you bother bringing up keylogger vs authenticator sophistication if you knew the authenticator wasn't the problem in the equation? Let me point out what you originally said in this thread that started the shitstorm:

authenticators can be hacked btw, just throwing that out there

Nice try saving face buddy, but it doesn't fly. You don't know what you're talking about. Stop spreading misinformation and STFU. No one ever claimed that you're completely invulnerable if you have an authenticator, just that it greatly improves your chances of not being hacked.

[Norellicus]

read up, on blizzard forums, mmo, ej. they all are calling it then authenticator "crack" thus thats the fucking term i used you mindless fucking droids.

Right, we're the mindless droids for actually having knowledge of the subject and separating the fact from the fiction, and you're the smart one for just regurgitating buzzwords you read on forums.

http://images.bluegartr.com/forum/im...ns/mmithra.png

[Correction]

all i posted was the basic truth

You posted misinformation, then proceeded to call anybody who pointed this out a fucking moron, etc. Everything past that is semantics "What I MEANT to say was Authenticator-protected accounts can still be hacked STFU NOOBS HRRP."

Stop posting, you're not going to win this argument. There's just no possible way.

[D44kpunk]

Ok mr genius, if you're so much smarter than us, then would mind telling us what the point of your post was if you knew what the exploit was? Why did you bother bringing up keylogger vs authenticator sophistication if you knew the authenticator wasn't the problem in the equation? Let me point out what you originally said in this thread that started the shitstorm:



Nice try saving face buddy, but it doesn't fly. You don't know what you're talking about. Stop spreading misinformation and STFU. No one ever claimed that you're completely invulnerable if you have an authenticator, just that it greatly improves your chances of not being hacked.

you're asking me what the point of my post was when 5 posts following yours said the exact same thing yours did? pointless posts ftw i suppose

i think its kind of obvious what the point of my post is. for as much as you guys worship authenticators for those of us who can't get them on our phone, or have to pay extra for S&H for something that only adds an extra security layer, they aren't worth it.

especially since as keyloggers in general evolve and an authenticator does not, this will even be more of a problem =(

edit: yea clearly i posted misinformation since BGs elite WoW board doesn't called it "the authenticator crack" that must mean that it's wrong, regardless of a misleading name there's no possible way that BG could be wrong.

[Ohaigaiz]

have to pay extra for S&H

shipping and handling is free. oh man you're just being wrong wrong wrong all over the place

especially since as keyloggers in general evolve and an authenticator does not, this will even be more of a problem =(

oh yeah man keyloggers evolve into other programs that don't log key strokes. absolute genius right there

[Norellicus]

Holy shit lol.

[D44kpunk]

shipping and handling is free. oh man you're just being wrong wrong wrong all over the place

oh yeah man keyloggers evolve into other programs that don't log key strokes. absolute genius right there

i realize you're one of the dumber fucks on the forums, but not everyone lives in the united states. S&H isn't free to most places

[Cephius]

you're asking me what the point of my post was when 5 posts following yours said the exact same thing yours did? pointless posts ftw i suppose

No, this is what happened. You read something on mmo-champion about authenticators getting cracked, didn't bother to research the method behind it, and posted here trying to debate with someone based on your misinformation. Then instead of simply admitting you were wrong, you backpedal and pretend like you knew that all along and tried to embrace the "authenticators dont make you invincible" angle which is correct, but it wasn't your original point.

i think its kind of obvious what the point of my post is. for as much as you guys worship authenticators for those of us who can't get them on our phone, or have to pay extra for S&H for something that only adds an extra security layer, they aren't worth it.

6 dollars isn't worth it? How poor are you? Shipping is free, by the way. 6 dollars is a bargain for the extra security it provides if you ask me.

especially since as keyloggers in general evolve and an authenticator does not, this will even be more of a problem =(

No, it won't. People who are susceptible to viruses and have authenticators will remain vulnerable, just like they are now. People who have secure PCs and authenticators will remain safe, just like they are now. Nothing changes unless the authenticators themselves are compromised.

edit: yea clearly i posted misinformation since BGs elite WoW board doesn't called it "the authenticator crack" that must mean that it's wrong, regardless of a misleading name there's no possible way that BG could be wrong.

Except we weren't wrong.

[Ohaigaiz]

i realize you're one of the dumber fucks on the forums, but not everyone lives in the united states. S&H isn't free to most places

man for someone who preaches about reading blizzard forums and shit you sure don't know what the fuck. it's been stated numerous times that the authenticator is something that blizzard wants every player to have in turn all you have to pay is the original cost of the product, i.e. 6$. shipping is covered completely by blizzard.

[D44kpunk]

http://www.wow.com/2010/02/28/man-in...uthenticators/

was the article i originally read about it on, a month or two ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfM3MIASR7A is what generally people are calling/thinking about it, do some research =). (markeedragon was the EGS of WoW before they got shut down.)

once again hacked is a commonly used word, so i guess you're saying in general that this guy is a liar and his account didn't get hacked someone just obtained/keylogged his password and went through his account, it got stolen not hacked. i mean really are you arguing this? semantics, really?


also i fail to see how people who have secure computers are going to need an authenticator in the first place so really you're countering yourself.


BG mods shur are dumb.

edit: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...33729409&sid=1 for ohai, read the blue post about 3 posts down