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  1. #681
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    how hard is ix'mnk? any chance he can be duo'd mnk + rdm if i can get him to a safe spot?

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    Then you're not paying attention. I'll go and do it later and fraps if I feel like it. I'll leave /war out of it to make it simple, but on /war, the 7 hit attack round always goes hit hit hit hit kick hit hit. You probably just thought you were in your next attack round. I'll do it w/ no haste though, so there will be an obvious diff in time to next attack round.


    Edit: Fraps is a fuckin hog on the HDD space and there's about 5% chance to kick and x2 oat proc. If I can't get a double proc after kick, I'll show you at least that OAT happens after kicks, as you'll never see kicks and an OAT in the same round, with the OAT proccing first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benz View Post
    how hard is ix'mnk? any chance he can be duo'd mnk + rdm if i can get him to a safe spot?
    Can be kited endlessly, so I would say not hard at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    i'm honestly interested in this. if you can't get fraps goin, i may actually log on and dick around with this in a little while.
    Video is laggy as fuck (not sure what was eating up all my processing power tbh, closed all my other apps), but I got it to proc on my 2nd attack round and even w/ the lag, the time between the first two attack rounds is pretty painfully obvious. Uploading in a sec

    Edit:
    Going to have to edit the first attack round out, actually. I had just logged in, so all the TODs are exposed.

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    Does virtue weapon OAT proc on jumps (giving the corresponding TP return as though two or three attacks land)?

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    Regular OAT works for sure on jumps, but doing a lot of ballista on mnk/drg, I've never had oat proc on jump nor high jump and always average and spike higher w/ destroyers (which wouldn't be the case if i was getting procs)

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    Hello, i have a lot of random questions, i hope i find some answers here
    (I know they are a lot, but i have lurked here for a long time =/ )


    All right! Here they go:
    1) If i miss high jump, do i still lose 30% hate as /drg??
    2) Does the moon affect drop rates? I never thought it did, but now im a little confused
    3) Do the Samurai WS Kasha, Yukikaze and Gekko, have att bonuses equal to 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 respectively?

    Blue mage questions:
    4) Can i learn Magic Fruit and Blank gaze on the same monkey? (If my blu skill is high enough)
    5) Does Anwig Salade, with WS acc+15 affect my blu spells? (I dont think so, but im not sure either)
    6) The reason you use Sneak attack before Cannonball is because your acc with a staff would suck right? If so, wouldnt sword merits be pretty important for a blu? you would get like +15 acc with 8 merits right? Because i have read that sword merits are not that important for blu, so im a little confused
    7) My Blue magic spells are affected by my the damage on my sword right? If so, I suppose Perdu hanger counts as dmg 44 when i have less than 100%TP?
    8 ) Is it true that physical blu spells have added acc to them?
    9) What real uses does Azure Lore have ??
    10) Are ranged attack blu spells, like Wild oats or Feather Storm, affected by acc or by ranged acc?
    11) I have read a lot about 2nd tier merits, but still cant really decide, i thought i was going for 4-5 Enchainment, 4-5 Assimilation, and if i dont go 5/5 on those two, 1 Diffusion, 1 Convergence.
    Since blu isnt something usually called on for endgame i thought Enchainment would be very useful for me, as is assimilation, but still Diffusion is very useful, though every 20 mins doesnt seem to be so important.
    So, my question about second tier merits is, really, how useful are enchainment and assimilation? And if i ever want to use Blu on endgame, is 5/5 Convergence that necessary?

    I really appreciate the time some of you will spend answering these questions!
    Vath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    Hello, i have a lot of random questions, i hope i find some answers here
    (I know they are a lot, but i have lurked here for a long time =/ )


    All right! Here they go:
    1) If i miss high jump, do i still lose 30% hate as /drg??
    -yes
    2) Does the moon affect drop rates? I never thought it did, but now im a little confused
    -no
    3) Do the Samurai WS Kasha, Yukikaze and Gekko, have att bonuses equal to 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 respectively?
    -wut

    Blue mage questions:
    4) Can i learn Magic Fruit and Blank gaze on the same monkey? (If my blu skill is high enough)
    -yes
    5) Does Anwig Salade, with WS acc+15 affect my blu spells? (I dont think so, but im not sure either)
    -only weapon skills (ie: things under Weapon Skills in the menu, hard concept I know

    Replies in bold, ask Draylo for all BLU-specific questions, he's into playing that gimpy job

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    3) Do the Samurai WS Kasha, Yukikaze and Gekko, have att bonuses equal to 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 respectively?
    -wut

    Well i read some time ago, that those WS had different attack bonuses applied to them, i wanted to confirm if it this was true, or if it was tested by anybody

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    Hello, i have a lot of random questions, i hope i find some answers here
    (I know they are a lot, but i have lurked here for a long time =/ )


    All right! Here they go:
    1) If i miss high jump, do i still lose 30% hate as /drg??
    2) Does the moon affect drop rates? I never thought it did, but now im a little confused
    3) Do the Samurai WS Kasha, Yukikaze and Gekko, have att bonuses equal to 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 respectively?

    Blue mage questions:
    4) Can i learn Magic Fruit and Blank gaze on the same monkey? (If my blu skill is high enough)
    I dont think you can learn two spells at once if that is what you're asking but then again I had Magic Fruit way before Gaze came out. My money is on no though, pics if im wrong!
    5) Does Anwig Salade, with WS acc+15 affect my blu spells? (I dont think so, but im not sure either)
    I dont believe this is quite known or has been extensively tested.
    6) The reason you use Sneak attack before Cannonball is because your acc with a staff would suck right? If so, wouldnt sword merits be pretty important for a blu? you would get like +15 acc with 8 merits right? Because i have read that sword merits are not that important for blu, so im a little confused.
    Combat merits are as important as the job is to you. If you feel that you want to merit sword then it would be overall good as it'd raise your accuracy and attack. Regarding why SA is paired with Cball: It's because SA forces a connected attack 100% of the time as your stacked gear which often will completely neglect accuracy. In the case of staff (something you have no skill in), it'll still force the attack to land.
    7) My Blue magic spells are affected by my the damage on my sword right? If so, I suppose Perdu hanger counts as dmg 44 when i have less than 100%TP?
    Blue Magic skill determines the D rating of spells. You often see people aiming for swords with added stats that affect the melee phase of BLU or modifiers that affect the spells you often use most.
    8 ) Is it true that physical blu spells have added acc to them?
    Never heard of any boosted acc along the lines of the first hit of a weaponskill.
    9) What real uses does Azure Lore have ??
    Epeen Cball numbers.
    10) Are ranged attack blu spells, like Wild oats or Feather Storm, affected by acc or by ranged acc?
    Feather Storm acts like a ranged attack, RACC affects it. Wild Oats, I dont know.
    11) I have read a lot about 2nd tier merits, but still cant really decide, i thought i was going for 4-5 Enchainment, 4-5 Assimilation, and if i dont go 5/5 on those two, 1 Diffusion, 1 Convergence.
    What do you want to do with BLU? Diffusions a nice hate-grab tool for wouldbe tanking but Enchainment overall rocks and Assimilation adds extra set slots. I personally would reccomend 5/5 Enchainment then break up the rest of the merits as you see fit.
    Since blu isnt something usually called on for endgame i thought Enchainment would be very useful for me, as is assimilation, but still Diffusion is very useful, though every 20 mins doesnt seem to be so important.
    So, my question about second tier merits is, really, how useful are enchainment and assimilation? And if i ever want to use Blu on endgame, is 5/5 Convergence that necessary?
    Regarding merits, 5/5 Enchainment and 5/5 Convergence is pretty solid though 5/5 Assimilation has been argued more useful than Convergence by some. It really does come down to what you want to do with BLU as the merits aren't as obvious as other jobs. If you dont plan to ever tank, id avoid Diffusion - it's really on too big a timer to be anything but a gimmick. Regurgitation builds would love Enchainment but again, thats a personal call on how you use BLU.

    I really appreciate the time some of you will spend answering these questions!
    Vath
    Answered the BLU questions and my name isn't even Draylo.

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    Is there a way to add more than 4 POL IDs to one POL client? I know I can't do it by using the regular "Add Member" button but was wondering if there was a way to do it via editing registry or other config files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Answered the BLU questions and my name isn't even Draylo.
    You also answered like half those questions incorrectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    6) The reason you use Sneak attack before Cannonball is because your acc with a staff would suck right? If so, wouldnt sword merits be pretty important for a blu? you would get like +15 acc with 8 merits right? Because i have read that sword merits are not that important for blu, so im a little confused.
    Combat merits are as important as the job is to you. If you feel that you want to merit sword then it would be overall good as it'd raise your accuracy and attack. Regarding why SA is paired with Cball: It's because SA forces a connected attack 100% of the time as your stacked gear which often will completely neglect accuracy. In the case of staff (something you have no skill in), it'll still force the attack to land.
    Thanks for the replies! But i still have the doubt, does sword skill acc affect physical blu spells acc??

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    3) Do the Samurai WS Kasha, Yukikaze and Gekko, have att bonuses equal to 1/3, 2/3 and 3/3 respectively?

    I can't recall what the exact attack bonuses are, but I'm pretty sure bonuses go Y<K<G

    4) Can i learn Magic Fruit and Blank gaze on the same monkey?
    Considering the likelihood of learning a single spell can be relatively low, the frequency at which you could find this out is very, very low. Pretty sure this is the only, if not one of very few, spells you can learn from the same mob...which you can only test this once because once you have the spell, you can't unlearn it. So while a single screen shot could disprove this, you would also need a 53+ BLU without either of the spells to attempt this.

    ...Or if your question is can you just learn either spell from the same monkey, and then the answer is yes!

    5) Does Anwig Salade, with WS acc+15 affect my blu spells? (I dont think so, but im not sure either)
    I don't see why WS acc would affect your normal BLU spells (that would just be normal accuracy or magic accuracy).

    If you're talking about Chain Affinitied BLU spells that consume TP there is a significantly higher likelihood Anwig could affect it since the spells are consuming TP (like a WS).

    6) The reason you use Sneak attack before Cannonball is because your acc with a staff would suck right? If so, wouldnt sword merits be pretty important for a blu? you would get like +15 acc with 8 merits right? Because i have read that sword merits are not that important for blu, so im a little confused

    Not only does SA give you 100% accuracy, it also force crits the attack, which you can then couple it with brave grip. IIRC staff/grip currently has the best damage, which is why it is used. Were they to introduce a better stat sword and/or shield you could swap to that, however, you would still want to use SA.

    7) My Blue magic spells are affected by my the damage on my sword right? If so, I suppose Perdu hanger counts as dmg 44 when i have less than 100%TP?

    Physical blue spells are only affected by your main hand's accuracy (unsure if magical spells use something besides blue skill). Perdu hanger gives you 5 acc. Your weapon's damage does not affect blue spells.

    8 ) Is it true that physical blu spells have added acc to them?

    Some might, but I doubt any of the important ones do since people would have found them by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    Blue mage questions:
    4) Can i learn Magic Fruit and Blank gaze on the same monkey? (If my blu skill is high enough)
    It may be possible. I doubt anybody knows for sure since we mostly get our spells around learn level or once they're introduced and the odds of it occuring would be rather low.
    5) Does Anwig Salade, with WS acc+15 affect my blu spells? (I dont think so, but im not sure either)
    I don't know, but I really doubt it. Even if it did, you shouldn't need that much acc with the proper food and gear. See #8.
    6) The reason you use Sneak attack before Cannonball is because your acc with a staff would suck right? If so, wouldnt sword merits be pretty important for a blu? you would get like +15 acc with 8 merits right? Because i have read that sword merits are not that important for blu, so im a little confused
    If all you did was SACA stuff on BLU then Sword merits would do nothing for you since the spell is guaranteed to land with SA and you should be using Vulcan's/Brave for the most part. I find them pretty important for BLU but I dislike playing melee jobs that I can't put weapon merits into so take that as you will.
    7) My Blue magic spells are affected by my the damage on my sword right? If so, I suppose Perdu hanger counts as dmg 44 when i have less than 100%TP?
    No. Physical spells are affected by your Blue Magic Skill, STR, and whatever mods the spell has. Magical spells work like nukes on other jobs, skill for macc, mods for macc/damage, MAB for damage (but nowhere near the increase a BLM would see from MAB as compared to their nuking mod, for instance)
    8 ) Is it true that physical blu spells have added acc to them?
    VZX did some testing that indicated they do, but the exact amount was never quantified. It's know than Physical Potency merits add 2 acc per merit, but the base amount is unknown. I assume a 20 acc base boost +10 from PP merits and it's worked well for me. Between the acc boost and the DEX/acc on much of our physical gear, you should be ok on spell accuracy with the proper food.
    9) What real uses does Azure Lore have ??
    As mentioned, epeen SACA Cannonball. It does boost your spells slightly (notably an acc/macc boost), but it's nothing to write home about.
    10) Are ranged attack blu spells, like Wild oats or Feather Storm, affected by acc or by ranged acc?
    Sprout Smack isn't ranged, actually. Don't know if racc has any effect.
    11) I have read a lot about 2nd tier merits, but still cant really decide, i thought i was going for 4-5 Enchainment, 4-5 Assimilation, and if i dont go 5/5 on those two, 1 Diffusion, 1 Convergence.
    Since blu isnt something usually called on for endgame i thought Enchainment would be very useful for me, as is assimilation, but still Diffusion is very useful, though every 20 mins doesnt seem to be so important.
    So, my question about second tier merits is, really, how useful are enchainment and assimilation? And if i ever want to use Blu on endgame, is 5/5 Convergence that necessary?
    I'm an advocate of 5/5 Assimilation no matter what. More spells available means more traits, more mods, and more versatility. The rest depends entirely on what you do with your BLU.
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    Thanks for the replies! But i still have the doubt, does sword skill acc affect physical blu spells acc??
    Yes.

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    Thank you all for the great replies!!
    If i have more questions ill be sure to bring them here (after i use the search button <.<)

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    Who cares its random question thread, at least you aren't starting a new thread. Those were all answered well though.

    11) I have read a lot about 2nd tier merits, but still cant really decide, i thought i was going for 4-5 Enchainment, 4-5 Assimilation, and if i dont go 5/5 on those two, 1 Diffusion, 1 Convergence.
    Since blu isnt something usually called on for endgame i thought Enchainment would be very useful for me, as is assimilation, but still Diffusion is very useful, though every 20 mins doesnt seem to be so important.
    So, my question about second tier merits is, really, how useful are enchainment and assimilation? And if i ever want to use Blu on endgame, is 5/5 Convergence that necessary?

    I would say wait for the update to see what you really wanna do with the rest of the group two merits. Convergence 5/5 is not *necessary* but its very nice on the occasion that it's up. BLU is a very versatile job, it all depends on how you use it in endgame. 5/5 Assimilation is a must obviously imo but the rest can be tailored to what you do on BLU, which could change depending on what spells we get. I currently have diffusion set for those times were the AOE spell might come in handy, tanking with exuviation, refuling when I am just with another friend that doesn't have haste, or cocoon etc. If you ultimately can't decide which you wanna put them into before the update, I myself went 1/5 diffusion, 1/5 convergence, 3/5 enchainment and 5/5 assimilation. Gives you bit of them all.

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