Random Question Thread X: Fucking 99 Level Cap, How Does it Work?

[Neosutra]

This is what Thorny's been driving at. In most of the situations where THF melee is viable, you'll cap accuracy with full haste gear, Blau/SK, and the appropriate food. For the odd high-eva mob, you generally have Feint at your disposal. Between these two factors, there are very few (if any, depends on how you use your THF etc) situations where a THF should be engaged fulltime and won't cap accuracy the majority of the time with Blau/SK.

He's not arguing Dakini/Blau isn't better when you need the accuracy, he's arguing you basically never need the accuracy. If I misread, well, I'm sure he'll be back in soon enough to straighten things out.

EDIT: Forgot to add my own point. As the disagreement is at the application level rather than the theory level, you need to show that situation(s) actually exist in-game that warrant the time to construct a Dakini, not that it's superior in a hypothetical situation.

For someone like me, that uses THF alot, but has combat merits elsewhere. I like the option of sticking with pizza (which doesnt cap me out for acc on most mobs), which highly favors the TD/blau and TD/TD.

I also dont think it is realistic to make blanket statements like "Thfs never need acc anymore" on anything, it's just silly.

[Radec]

Does rune 102 (Trial by Numbers) add marble bonus to voucher V05, or just the bonus from Vendastox? Do +Stat (STR INT etc) give a marble bonus in V05 as well?

[miokomioko]

I currently have a Mirke augemented for PUP with ACC+10 Pet ACC/RACC +15. Just got Pantin Tobe to drop yesterday - should I keep the Mirke as is or re-augment for PetMAB/MACC (with some other throwaway stat) and use Tobe for melee?

Yeah, what he said... Pantin Tobe will take over for a melee piece if you can't afford Avalon Breastplate or Antares Harness (also assuming you don't have Enkidu's Harness or Usukane Haramaki). But, especially since Spiritreaver is such a powerful tool, I'd go for any "Pet: MAcc/MAB" gear/augments you can get your hands on, especially for Mirke Wardecors. I paired it up with the "Pet: Acc/RAcc +15" for whatever Valoredge kited NMs or Jailer of Love, since I wouldn't personally be meleeing and wearing Mirke at the same time. However, I'd be weary of bothering with "Pet: MAcc +7" on the Desultor Tassets, since Pantin Churidars have +5 and if you ever run Dynamis-Tavnazias, you could end up getting an upgraded +7 on those, saving your pants augments for your melee-type automatons.

[Not Kuno]

How do you link a new account to SE id? This site is so god damn confusing.

[Thorny]

This is what Thorny's been driving at. In most of the situations where THF melee is viable, you'll cap accuracy with full haste gear, Blau/SK, and the appropriate food. For the odd high-eva mob, you generally have Feint at your disposal. Between these two factors, there are very few (if any, depends on how you use your THF etc) situations where a THF should be engaged fulltime and won't cap accuracy the majority of the time with Blau/SK.

He's not arguing Dakini/Blau isn't better when you need the accuracy, he's arguing you basically never need the accuracy. If I misread, well, I'm sure he'll be back in soon enough to straighten things out.

EDIT: Forgot to add my own point. As the disagreement is at the application level rather than the theory level, you need to show that situation(s) actually exist in-game that warrant the time to construct a Dakini, not that it's superior in a hypothetical situation.

This.

For someone like me, that uses THF alot, but has combat merits elsewhere. I like the option of sticking with pizza (which doesnt cap me out for acc on most mobs), which highly favors the TD/blau and TD/TD.

Name some situations? Salvage/Dynamis are the meat of places where THF is both used and can realistically break 5% on a parser(merits if you don't have a real job but meh). I don't have dagger merits any more, I have no issues parsing >90% accuracy in dynamis and salvage with pizza and a 25% haste build and proper usage of feint. The extra attack on foragers or cerb+1 doesn't outdo the weapon swap, so for dakinis to be worth it you're going to need a better swap available. I already have all of those swaps done and my accuracy is still capped.

I also dont think it is realistic to make blanket statements like "Thfs never need acc anymore" on anything, it's just silly.

I never said that. I said the majority of situations where it's relevant don't need the accuracy. If you want to optimize THF damage on dark ixion or kirin zerg or <insert other situation where it doesn't even matter if you engage> then they're good to have. The places where your damage has an actual impact on the event(lowman dynamis, salvage) are places where it's not needed.

[Neosutra]

I have better merit jobs and I still enjoy meriting on THF.

Also fought T3 Vamp and a few other VNMs today where I wasnt capped in acc in my full acc set and Pizza. And that's just today. I'm not going to go through every mob in the game and break down the evasion/acc correlation and show you that acc on a 1 handed job without combat merits is useful, I'm going to instead assume you're being argumentative and you're actually not a moron. Or is it the latter?

You keep pulling this "you never will have situations where you need acc on thf" shit, when it is a silly argument.

[TybudX]

Those are situations where you need to be thinking about X's Knife...

[Nightfyre]

You keep pulling this "you never will have situations where you need acc on thf" shit, when it is a silly argument.

I never said that. I said the majority of situations where it's relevant don't need the accuracy. If you want to optimize THF damage on dark ixion or kirin zerg or <insert other situation where it doesn't even matter if you engage> then they're good to have. The places where your damage has an actual impact on the event(lowman dynamis, salvage) are places where it's not needed.

Seriously? I'm starting to see how this discussion got bogged down.

[Dathus]

Does anyone have the maths of the OAT Polearm vs V.Fork and Gungnir? Someone was saying it was done but I can't find it in the What's Better thread.

[Neosutra]

edit: nevermind, not worth it.

Competent people here should know when to use the gear they have and what situations each piece would shine, I've outlined when/where each combination of daggers wins. People can choose what they want from that.

[miokomioko]

Has there ever been any sort of compiled data regarding what kind of FoV augments are available for what level equipment? I occasionally trade a Buffoon's Collar +1 for the shits/giggles of it since it's some of the few non-expensive and non-rare/ex/aug shit I have in my gear... I have yet to see anything other than elemental resists.

[Kegsay]

Other than wiki, I don't think so.

[TacoTaru]

If I buy the Ultimate Collection of Gamestop's website as a download so I can get the three expansions for my alt character, do I actually have to download it or do they give me the code to enter up front so I can just go enter it and then not care about the rest?

[Massimo]

If I buy the Ultimate Collection of Gamestop's website as a download so I can get the three expansions for my alt character, do I actually have to download it or do they give me the code to enter up front so I can just go enter it and then not care about the rest?

I haven't used Gamestop, but both Steam and Direct2Drive allows you to see the code without installing. I don't see why Gamestop would be any different.

[Marcicus]

Has Maat always been able to hit for over 200 dmg a punch to lv66 MNKs?

I just tried doing the fight today and I died before he even 2hred. I literally had well over 1200 damage dealt to me within the time frame of 6 seconds (one counter, rest hit all over 200+dmg).

And no, my gear isn't terrible either, and I didn't use Counterstance.

[rog]

And no, my gear isn't terrible either, and I didn't use Counterstance.

Maybe you should have?

[Draylo]

Yes that seems normal.

[TheTaru]

Has Maat always been able to hit for over 200 dmg a punch to lv66 MNKs?

I just tried doing the fight today and I died before he even 2hred. I literally had well over 1200 damage dealt to me within the time frame of 6 seconds (one counter, rest hit all over 200+dmg).

And no, my gear isn't terrible either, and I didn't use Counterstance.

Yup. It's much, much easier a few levels higher.

[Marcicus]

Maybe you should have?

Numerous reports and my own verification have concluded that using Counterstance is bad.

The only reason I even brought this up is because I can't find a single youtube video of anyone getting hit that hard consistently.

Yup. It's much, much easier a few levels higher.

hnnnnnnnngh i don't want to exp/burn this shitty ass job for more levels :<

[Dooom]

Numerous reports and my own verification have concluded that using Counterstance is bad.

Really? Because my experience and what I was told is that counterstance is pretty damn awesome for mnk maat. You're already getting hit like a truck, dropping your defence while vastly increasing your chance to hit him back seems like a good idea to me.