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  1. #1421
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    you can forget about sam and drg, but dnc is a pretty important one for any melee
    WHM for Chi Blast.

    But seriously, anything other than MNK/WAR, MNK/NIN, and MNK/DNC is going to be so narrow that it's not worth levelling for preemptively. Maybe MNK/THF, but I can't think of anything offhand outside of farming I use /THF for.

  2. #1422
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    Polearm or Great Katana for SAM Maat at level 70 when both are capped and properly geared for respective WS's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LidenbokValour View Post
    There is probably maths for this everywhere but I am looking for a solid yes/no more than anything really.

    Mirage Keffiyeh or Gnadbods? (For physical spells of course)
    With CA, use Gnads (CA Doubles Modifiers). Without it, use Mirage Keffiyeh.

    Edit: If you want to double check, so a search for Gnad/Mirage and set the poster to Suiram. He's the one who mathed it out extensively last year.

  4. #1424
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    With CA, use Gnads (CA Doubles Modifiers). Without it, use Mirage Keffiyeh.

    Edit: If you want to double check, so a search for Gnad/Mirage and set the poster to Suiram. He's the one who mathed it out extensively last year.
    This ^

  5. #1425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Polearm or Great Katana for SAM Maat at level 70 when both are capped and properly geared for respective WS's?
    I would go GKT. Samurai Maat is incredibly easy anyway, I did it at 66 and iirc I used I-wing, and Meditate before 2hring, and he was dead before I'd finished my self-SC. If you don't beat him using gkt and an i-wing, then you either got extremely unlucky or did something incredibly wrong.

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    Thanks i'll look it up! While I am here:

    My swords are incredibly outdated now still rolling perdu/ifrits. I am aware that kogg blows ifrits out of the water but never really found a dedicated MMM group nor' do I actually know how I would get about to finding the NM. Those maze tablets look so confusing lol they are probably really simple when you know what you are looking at.

    With the update coming do you think its worth me trying to get a group of 6 together for this sword and reading up on it or shall I just work on the magic acc magian sword? I know its not an upgrade in terms of strength and other physical stats but the damage and extra MP also the magic acc for things like drainkiss sounds pretty nice also 30mp is decent as I am elvaan weep lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LidenbokValour View Post
    Thanks i'll look it up! While I am here:

    My swords are incredibly outdated now still rolling perdu/ifrits. I am aware that kogg blows ifrits out of the water but never really found a dedicated MMM group nor' do I actually know how I would get about to finding the NM. Those maze tablets look so confusing lol they are probably really simple when you know what you are looking at.

    With the update coming do you think its worth me trying to get a group of 6 together for this sword and reading up on it or shall I just work on the magic acc magian sword? I know its not an upgrade in terms of strength and other physical stats but the damage and extra MP also the magic acc for things like drainkiss sounds pretty nice also 30mp is decent as I am elvaan weep lol
    I would wait for the next update before attempting to get new weapons since they've already shown models for new swords. If nothing comes out that surpasses the current selection, I would work on the following swords:

    Perdu Sword/Max damage Sword from trial of the magians
    OAT Sword from trial of the magians
    Koggelmander

    For Koggelmander, you can probably buy the tablet at the goblin NPC if someone put it up for sale. There should be information on wiki regarding the combination needed to pop the Bugard NM for koggelmander, so all you need to do is figure out the number and look for sample tablets that have the numbers you need.

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    edit: nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    WHM for Chi Blast.

    But seriously, anything other than MNK/WAR, MNK/NIN, and MNK/DNC is going to be so narrow that it's not worth levelling for preemptively. Maybe MNK/THF, but I can't think of anything offhand outside of farming I use /THF for.
    /Thf for DI? >.> if mnk is all you have D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    For Koggelmander, you can probably buy the tablet at the goblin NPC if someone put it up for sale. There should be information on wiki regarding the combination needed to pop the Bugard NM for koggelmander, so all you need to do is figure out the number and look for sample tablets that have the numbers you need.
    Is there mazes I can solo to earn marbles? >_<

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    Managed to copy a tabula for Tanihwa not exactly what wiki recommended but the essentials are their and its possible for the sword to drop. Also beats farming marbles for the perfect tabula.

    I went in solo to fuck about and it carnaged me in seconds lol, any suggestions on set up and number of people needed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    spend your time leveling something more useful
    Spend your time learning how to not be a fucking douchebag and get the fuck out of the random question thread.


    Question: What are some reasonably high-end (no terpsichore, etc) TP/WS sets for DNC/NIN? It's been a long time since I've even played the job. I imagine Magian trials recently made my Joyeuse obsolete for the job.

  13. #1433
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    May level cor for roll whoring purposes only. Aside from a gun and bullets, I don't want to buy anything I don't already own. That being said, how viable is roll bitch and possibly pulling in a party going to be? Because I sure as hell don't plan on gearing up. Also which rolls are a must and which can I skip?

    Also, don't plan on lv'ing any subs I don't already have leveled. Purely roll whore, nothing else.


    Edit:
    Light/Dark shot based on marksmanship?

    If not I'll just pull w/ these
    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../a/a1/Dart.JPG

    and macro in a gun/bullet to do light or darkshot and back to darts for pulling

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    Light/Dark shot based on marksmanship?
    No.

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    Is one bullet per pull really that bad?

    You'll probably get asked why you're not shooting anything or helping with dmg, or people will just screenshot you as a COR with darts in the gimp/confused/etc player thread. If you're cool with that... yeah, you could probably get away with being in full AF and throwing darts around.

  16. #1436
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    Full AF? I'm not gonna quest that shit lol. Rolls, horror head II, Dream robe+1, Republic Subligar all the way, lol.

    As for gimp/confused/wtf player thread, I really don't care.

    As for bullets vs darts. At the end of a pt, I don't have to mule darts. I can just toss them because they were so cheap, lol.

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    I am pretty sure the Mythbusters did an episode where they found out that, in contrary to popular belief, the effort put forth by back line jobs actually affects exp/hr.

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    I can pull decently and be damn quick on a dark shot, keep rolls up, ect. Just odn't feel like paying to deal dmg for a job I'm just gonna rollwhore at 75 anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mexichu View Post
    I can pull decently and be damn quick on a dark shot, keep rolls up, ect. Just odn't feel like paying to deal dmg for a job I'm just gonna rollwhore at 75 anyways.
    Just wow.

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    Get ready for shitty parties just because any leader who wont kick you is likely just happy to be in a party.

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