Obama asks Congress for money for Israel

[Cephius]

The one time you'd wish the fucking Republicans would start shouting about all that money we're throwing away on worthless budget items like this.. and they're silent.

Coming out against supporting Israel is unfortunately political suicide these days, you're not going to see it happen from anyone until things drastically change

[Kael]

Granted, some people might be uncomfortable with the idea of the US being a weapons vendor. It kind of goes against the idea of the US as a beacon of peace.

More like the Arsenal of Freedom baby. We already do sell them equipment, weapons, defense systems. Why not this?

[Kuya]

It's not an issue over why not sell them a specific item. It's an issue over selling weaponry to a country that commits ethnic cleansing, not to mention giving money to a foreign country when the US currently suffers a recession and budget deficits and increasing foreign debt.

[Kael]

It's not an issue over why not sell them a specific item. It's an issue over selling weaponry to a country that commits ethnic cleansing, not to mention giving money to a foreign country when the US currently suffers a recession and budget deficits and increasing foreign debt.

Yeah, but generally people either don't realize the ethnic cleansing issue or just don't care because it's happening to middle easterners.

I'm surprised there isn't more of an uproar in the media regarding GIVING 200 million to them for any reason while we're broke.

Don't get me wrong, I agree this is an all around bad idea. We shouldn't be helping them one bit right now. Especially with the stuff they are pulling right now, their last operation was exceptionally cruel. But I would think if the government is going to ignore their blatant disregard for palastinian lives then we might as well make some money off of it.

I suppose it's all about image, as you said though. We gotta look like we're friendly. Even if we are helping the Israelites. Though this is going to piss off that region even more. lol

[Headspace]

glass em

[archibaldcrane]

I'd like to point out that in military aid alone, we are giving Israel somewhere around $400, per Israeli citizen, per year.

[Elvis]

Even if we are helping the Israelites.

wut

[archibaldcrane]

Pretty sure he just means Israelis.

[Souj]

Pretty sure he just means Israelis.

obviously his plan is to travel back in time and get the Persians and isrealites to completely kill each other off so all our current problems will go away.

[Yuri-G]

Spoiler: show

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hmm...

[Max™]

http://jontaplin.com/the-cost-of-empire/

Found this last night while looking for the military numbers overseas, interesting read so far, anyone got any opinions on the leaning/bias of it/the writer so I can tell better which way he goes there?

[Kael]

obviously his plan is to travel back in time and get the Persians and isrealites to completely kill each other off so all our current problems will go away.

I totally would.

[Cadsuane]

http://jontaplin.com/the-cost-of-empire/

Found this last night while looking for the military numbers overseas, interesting read so far, anyone got any opinions on the leaning/bias of it/the writer so I can tell better which way he goes there?

It's quite inspired actually.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

so far obama has been a conservative's wet dream

except for the whole being black thing

Are you trolling or just an idiot?

[archibaldcrane]

Cut taxes, increase military spending, give more to Israel, expand offshore oil drilling, continue two wars, keep guantanamo open...

[Max™]

It's quite inspired actually.

It seemed like it was pretty well thought out, not favoring one side or the other politically, rather favoring reality over ideology.

Guess I was right?

[Cadsuane]

No, it's very genuinely liberal, which is probably why it's good. ":3

[Max™]

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[Meresgi]

Spoiler: show

http://emsworth.files.wordpress.com/...ama-change.jpg

hmm...

He kept his promise, it's all I have in my wallet currently.

[Meian]

Giving them their own defense mechanism would allow any troops stationed there defending them to go home wouldn't it?

Besides what was said already...

I am not sure what the mechanical difference between a short-range and long-range anti-missile defense system is. But there was a debate in my class this past semester stating a long-range anti-missile defense system was very costly and not very realiable from the tests shown. These were controlled tests too. The other issue was it would cause the opposition to make more missiles and even throw in some decoys and various other measures to counteract the anti-missiles. It may have been my professor who said it but it was something on the lines of trying to get a hole-in-one as the hole is moving towards you at such a speed, not to mention decoy holes.

Again, this was more towards long-range anti-missile defense system and if it was good for the U.S to be spending so much money on them and risk provoking other nations to stock up on their weapons. Reminds me of those cartoons where one guy pulls out a bigger weapon than the other and it keeps going back and forth.