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  1. #21
    Hydra
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    http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...523_004546.png

    Headlong belt, Minuet Earring, Rose Strap.

  2. #22
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    I need to whip out my magnifying glass?

  3. #23
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    Forget the PCA, is that a VFork?

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Yup :D

    He never used ragnarock+5/5 ares outside of campaign.

    For events he used aegis/excali, homam hands/feet/legs and ares body w/ homam head (I think? may have been turban idr).

    For merots, he used Excali/kracken with turban/homam (idr) ares 3 homam spamming kotr!

    Still, however lol he was elsewhere, he still used 5/5 ares and ragna in campaign just for banter basically (or as much banter as a jp can give hilst lotting corrancy from his ls)

    Edit: You know what my only recolelction of anything ingram said was?
    {Hello!}chasは{Bard}です
    hahhaa i remembered him asking the plds to go /war for ouryu ...

  5. #25
    CoP Dynamis
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    and ingram has a burtgang now

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Forget the PCA, is that a VFork?
    On Phoenix almost every other JP with V Fork is extremely gimp. I'm talking NQ SH, AJ, Fang earrings, etc gimp.

  7. #27
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahkow View Post
    hahhaa i remembered him asking the plds to go /war for ouryu ...
    my first LS leader asked the PLDs to go /war for Defender and provoke on Ouryu...

    I always came /RDM, my co-tank /WAR, the /WAR never tanked, didn't even own an Iron Ram lance or MDT build.. ._.;

    Then after about two runs the other PLD invested in some MDT Gear and came RDM and everything went smoother =D.


    Oh, and i died once while it was on the ground on the first run i came PLD/RDM, cause my "Co-tank" couldn't get hate off me for shit and had the nerve to say "Thats why you should come WAR" implying Defender would have saved my life. Not the Sleepers paying attention, or the WHM's using cure, or her actually doing her job once in a while instead of only after i died.

    Morons.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahkow View Post
    hahhaa i remembered him asking the plds to go /war for ouryu ...
    I remember, at least on Pandemonium, when Ouryu was pretty new/unkilled by most LSes, the idea of a unslowable wyrm made /war the default sub. Seems pretty silly now.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    it's good for rampart, but darksteel+1 much?
    Hydra body for rampart dewd, Who cares about Magic shield?

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    I remember, at least on Pandemonium, when Ouryu was pretty new/unkilled by most LSes, the idea of a unslowable wyrm made /war the default sub. Seems pretty silly now.
    that was when after homam was implemented and /nin was the way ...

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    it's good for rampart, but darksteel+1 much?
    I would expect 75 DEF + 20 VIT to outdo -4% PDT or at the very least be comparable to it. On top of that, Koenig has +60HP which the Darksteel doesn't have which helps for maintaining CE while taking damage.

  12. #32
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    Why wouldn't you use M.body for rampart, if you need rampart for hate gain then you are doing it wrong tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'China View Post
    Why wouldn't you use M.body for rampart, if you use paladin tanks then you are doing it wrong tbh.
    ftfy

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    I would expect 75 DEF + 20 VIT to outdo -4% PDT or at the very least be comparable to it. On top of that, Koenig has +60HP which the Darksteel doesn't have which helps for maintaining CE while taking damage.
    Did I miss the patch where they bumped Koenig body up to 115 Def?

  15. #35
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    Hmm? It's 65 DEF and 20 VIT. 2VIT gives you 1DEF giving you a total of 75DEF from Koenig unless I've done something horribly wrong?

  16. #36
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    Darksteel Harness+1 has 40def, so 115 - 40 = 75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooom View Post
    Darksteel Harness+1 has 40def, so 115 - 40 = 75.
    holy whoosh

    For the people who still don't get it, koenig has 35 def more after counting the VIT. The VIT probably takes off 5 FSTR for mob, but unless you have no other PDT you're still usually better off with darksteel in most practical situations.

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    holy whoosh

    For the people who still don't get it, koenig has 35 def more after counting the VIT. The VIT probably takes off 5 FSTR for mob, but unless you have no other PDT you're still usually better off with darksteel in most practical situations.
    Eh, I can see why my post might make you think I got wooshed, but I'm aware that M-body doesn't have 115 def. Was trying to point out why lolwut said he did, and evidently I failed at that!

  19. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    holy whoosh

    For the people who still don't get it, koenig has 35 def more after counting the VIT. The VIT probably takes off 5 FSTR for mob, but unless you have no other PDT you're still usually better off with darksteel in most practical situations.
    Why did I forget about the DEF on DS Harness+1 wtf. I still don't know which I'd prefer between the two bodies though.

  20. #40
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    this is making my head hurt -_-

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