Men: On infidelity, adultery and marriage

[Darus Grey]

What's yours again? You want me to go back to last page and edit out where I said your parents had a nasty divorce or something?

Quoting the posts where I talked about it would be enough.

[Darus Grey]

states regulate prenups. Yes you can give them up.

That must be why it's so easy to annul one then.

[zoobernut]

That must be why it's so easy to annul one then.

About as easy as it is to annul a marriage.

[archibaldcrane]

Quoting the posts where I talked about it would be enough.

I thought you were the one complaining earlier about how nasty your parents divorce was before, haven't read this thread in about 3 days.

This wasn't enough acknowledgement that I misremembered? Would you like a blowjob too?

[Tyche]

That must be why it's so easy to annul one then.

It's easy to annul because there's about 10 million reasons a good lawyer can find to annul one, but ultimately that decision is up to the state/judge. Prenups are under a states divorce law, so to say that it "supersedes state law" is simply incorrect.

[Darus Grey]

This wasn't enough acknowledgement that I misremembered? Would you like a blowjob too?

If you gave me them more often, we wouldn't fight like we do.

[archibaldcrane]

If you gave me them more often, we wouldn't fight like we do.

I don't blow people more educated than me

Anyway, about those tax benefits...

[Darus Grey]

I don't blow people more educated than me

Anyway, about those tax benefits...

"You've never fucking blown anyone then...."

I quickly realized the error in this comeback.

[Beckwin]

I think the funniest thing about this topic is darus talks about the inequality of the institution of marriage and people getting burned (which isn't an uncommon premise)... from a sort of chauvinist point of view (which is uncommon, well, except on the internet).

[archibaldcrane]

It is kinda funny to say "men make way more money than women" but then raise the problem that women try to take men's money during divorce, as opposed to arguing that women should be paid more equitably.

I kinda like it actually.

[Beckwin]

let's combine darus and titanss to make the following statement:

All women are cheating goldiggers.

[Acturus]

This is just silly.

Person: I am on Facebook. I have an account and friends and everything.

Darus: But why are you on Facebook?

Person: Because my friends are on and I can talk with them, and we can play games and interact. Plus I can schedule events for all of us, and upload photos and share those as well.

Darus: But you can call your friends, or text them. Or even visit them in person. And you can play games outside of facebook. And, you can put events together without Facebook. And there are lots of other ways to upload photos. Obviously society is making you join Facebook. I'll say it again with large capital letters. YOU DON'T NEED FACEBOOK TO HAVE A SOCIAL LIFE.

Person: But where else can I do all of those things in the same spot with less hassle?

Darus: It doesn't matter. Facebook raped my dog. Therefore, it's bad. I am a internet white night crusading against the evils of Facebook.

Person: But doesn't that make you a little biased and blinded by your own point of view?

Darus: Who cares? I'm right! Facebook is pressured on us by society.

[Beckwin]

you'd be pretty stupid to argue that marriage isn't a social creation and that we're generally conditioned (and even these days in the West) and often pressured into pursuing it. what you can argue is that it does have some merits, and that you can claim your own marriage as individual/special/whatever in it's reasons/application/etc while acknowledging the legal convenience is nice.

[Darus Grey]

I think the funniest thing about this topic is darus talks about the inequality of the institution of marriage and people getting burned (which isn't an uncommon premise)... from a sort of chauvinist point of view (which is uncommon, well, except on the internet).

Reality isn't PC.

[aduidarnenye]

Most marriages fail, even accounting for their decrease, not accepting the possibility is foolish, we're talking about a coin-flip here. However everyone thinks they're the "exception" and that it can't go wrong.

According to this website the divorce rate, while still about 50%, fell in 2002.

I've read, I believe in Freaknomics or the sequel, that the problem with calculating the divorce rate that they just count the number of marriages in a year and compare that to the number of divorces in the same year. This obviously doesn't work because the people who divorce in a year likely did not also get married that same. The number of overall marriages has dropped so therefore it would naturally seem like the divorce rate is higher.

Also, I don't know anyone who is married who thinks they are the exception and that it can't go wrong. I have no idea where you could have gotten that idea. Everyone knows that relationships don't always work out and you have to be realistic. We can hope that it will work out and try to make it work out, but there is no guarantee.

you'd be pretty stupid to argue that marriage isn't a social creation and that we're generally conditioned (and even these days in the West) and often pressured into pursuing it. what you can argue is that it does have some merits, and that you can claim your own marriage as individual/special/whatever in it's reasons/application/etc while acknowledging the legal convenience is nice.

One of the things about marriage is that doesn't make you an individual (literally because you're a couple) or special because almost everyone marries. I don't understand why people think that marriage is one thing, or this other thing, or that other thing and not think, perhaps, it's all those things together.

Also, marriage (or at least long term male-female bonds) have been around since pre-historical times and were formed to keep the father around to help raise his offspring while allowing him access to sex and further reproduction. One of the reasons women can have sex all month long instead of only when they are fertile is to hold men interested. It's silly to say that something is only social, or that it is only biological. There are many reasons.

[Beckwin]

I'm not saying it makes you an individual, but your marriage can be distinct from other marriages/the commonly held (or institutional) concept of marriage. You're right that marriage can mean many things (i.e. a major distinction is secular and religious marriage- some parts/reasons can be the same for sure, but you know what I mean), so I think we're in agreement here.

Darus:

But reality does have a liberal bias.

[aduidarnenye]

But reality does have a liberal bias.

I have to agree with this. People tend to profess conserative views but when it comes down to it, especially on an individual basis, favour liberalness (at least for themselves).