the most important question in the world

[Ksandra]

actually, nvm, don't look you might get the herp

[Kuya]

y'all need to back off in a major way.

People who are your friends are going to listen. People who aren't? No.

Unless the people who were causing you these problems were your friends.

[Ivve]

there was a separation period. i dated, he dated.

[Kuya]

Were.

[Ksandra]

point stands though that people are gonna run with it whether you want them to or not because it's internets

[Conrad]

i don't want to have to spell it out for you here, but spam has bled into my real life in a major way because some people here have gone way, way over the line into my personal life. y'all need to back off in a major way.

If we're that destructive, why have you continued to have us as facebook friends or even posted on here at all? I'm being 100% sincere, no sarcasm or insults are intended.

[Ivve]

People who are your friends are going to listen. People who aren't? No.

Unless the people who were causing you these problems were your friends.

some of them are. i fully anticipate some people not listening, but those aren't the people i'm addressing here.

[Mizango]

Honey, this is Meat we're talking about. Are you seriously surprised? I mean, common!

That was my only point. Zebras changing their spots, etc.

I don't even know what's going on. I didn't realize we were being quite so serious here. I mean if shits going down with Meat I don't really care one way or the other, I just thought it was funny in like a "Ivve and Meat sitting in a tree" kind of way. I'm really out of the loop to be honest so I wouldn't read too much into what Im saying. For the record ain't no one gossiping about you, I come here to type shit that makes me laugh and hopefully someone else will laugh too. I can't handle treating this forum as real life and I'm sorry if some wires got crossed here. We cool and junk, you're not the only feathers I ruffle so don't feel singled out or anything.

This is truth. I love Day to death, but that nigga reams me ten times harder than any and everyone here. I still love you tho, he's good folks. My only point in this was how can everyone get mad at the flowing river, yet absolve the mountain glacier from which all of this is originating? From my pov its not personal, the same gossiping thing that annoys you, annoys me. We just have our ire beams aimed at different sources.

[Ksandra]

People who are your friends are going to listen. People who aren't? No.

Unless the people who were causing you these problems were your friends.

also this ^

[Conrad]

Miz is holding it down itt.

[Ivve]

If we're that destructive, why have you continued to have us as facebook friends or even posted on here at all? I'm being 100% sincere, no sarcasm or insults are intended.

some of them have been removed and honestly, my posting here is not what's bringing this up. it's other people who keep discussing my life for reasons i don't entirely understand. i'm trying to make y'all aware of how serious this can be for me at times so i don't necessarily have to jump to that step. i believe some of you will respect it, and some won't. the ones who won't will get cut out. i'm just not one to jump to the conclusion that ALL SPAM FRENZ MUST GO, because it's not everyone. it's a handful of certain people who so far have not gotten the message.

[Ivve]

This is truth. I love Day to death, but that nigga reams me ten times harder than any and everyone here. I still love you tho, he's good folks. My only point in this was how can everyone get mad at the flowing river, yet absolve the mountain glacier from which all of this is originating? From my pov its not personal, the same gossiping this that annoys you, annoys me. We just have our ire beams aimed at different sources.

oh trust, meat's getting a fucking earful from me too. i'm just saying some of y'all should fucking know better.

[Ksandra]

i don't want to have to spell it out for you here, but spam has bled into my real life in a major way because some people here have gone way, way over the line into my personal life. y'all need to back off in a major way.

I would also like to point out that insofar this has not be "spam's" fault at all. I do not have you or any of these guys on fb/aim/irc/etc.etc.etc. Everything I know about the drama in your life has been from posts here about it. A majority done by you.

The only person I think that has gone " way over the line" to your life would have been ohai posting pics he shouldn't have. But if you post shit and allow yourself to continue convos, you can't flip out when people read it.

[Day]

Yeah I'm with Ksan, I'm either missing giant links in the chain here or you're on about some direct results of your actions.

[#686578]

Usually we don't care, but I mean if one gloats about it enough then we as a community, have a civic duty to climb to the highest mountain top and echo the wishes of the one originator. Don't be mad at the children of Hesiod for retelling of the Illiad, Arvin,be mad at Homer for force feeding the epic slay story upon our virgin ears. We're just the messengers brah.

Check your ingredients.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5hDFu2z_gt...0/GLORIOUS.jpg

[Ivve]

here's the deal ksan. the shit i put out there is stuff i know is not going to be detrimental to me. the shit other people put out there or try to say, can. it's that simple. i try to go with the flow and not flip out when anyone makes a joke, because a joke is a joke. nobody took what meat said seriously until this thread, and that's when i had to say something.

[Lucienne]

My father once told me, that he holds me responsible for my freinds' actions, because I chose them myself. If you hang out with trouble, you'll get trouble. It's not rocket science.

I mean this in the best possible way, at some point, you will have to look at all this mess and see your part in it, because unless you can do that, it will only keep repeating.

[Ksandra]

here's the deal ksan. the shit i put out there is stuff i know is not going to be detrimental to me. the shit other people put out there or try to say, can. it's that simple. i try to go with the flow and not flip out when anyone makes a joke, because a joke is a joke. nobody took what meat said seriously until this thread, and that's when i had to say something.

which I am not disagreeing with, but it's sort of how miz was saying, don't shoot the messenger (ie. don't point fingers at all of spam for reading and believe what meat wrote). the only two people you really should be pissed at is meat and ohai. lumping spam together then bitching that your personal life is private is not our fault.

if you came in and called meat a fucktard n' shit, then I wouldn't have said anything. but then blaming others for going with the joke or believing it before you said anything is extreme imo

[Ksandra]

in other words, you're going to end up burning bridges with the friends that did nothing over the 1 friend that did

[Mizango]

It's that boys will be boys in the locker room mentality tbh Ivve. I think the thing that hurts me is that you and I know each other inside out, yet I feel like deep down (Skirks and others i this thread probably feel the same way) that if something were to come down between believing me or John Ho, then you'd obviously run with John Q Public. I get it, lolinternet friendslol and the likes, but even a blind man can see where all this is coming from. Like I said, no one is salty cause we aint "hittin it" or nothing like that, its just that the last 2 weeks or so there is an overwhelming feeling that everyone else is the blame for things being said, and misconceptions. Its easy to go in forum mode and say "fuck meat" or whatever, but behind closed pm's who knows whats being said.

Not jumping to any conclusions but even going back to that Ohai thread, I saw Skirk get blamed, Day get blamed, Domon got blamed and so on and so on. We agree with you 150%, your business is your business, but when you put trust in someone and they flip the script and rat you out to your peers, how can we not listen? I mean you put trust in him, so its not fair for you to expect us to not do the same when he speaks. Like others have said in this thread, this aint your boys first, second or third rodeo. I know it seems like im hating or w/e, but for the most part you know and im sure others would agree that when/if im not trolling I just call it like I see it.

Not dog piling on your boy because I don't know him well enough on a personal level to do that, but I suggest you pull these niggas resumes, cause they are on some foul shit. You lay with dogs, you get fleas. Its not personal, but I don't think its right that we get thrown under the bus for something someone is saying/doing is all. We still cool peeps, but like i said the gossip pisses you off? Me too. You trusted him, so do we. We cant distrust or shit on a niggas word simply out of convenience. I still got love for you and would do anything to help, but niggas making you look stupid. Yeah I know I just typed book on my phone, fuck yo typos and out of place words.

I'm out.