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  1. #1861
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    I remember during ToAU time, pizza was a popular food and many ppl build their gears to adapt to pizza food. So on most low man contents like nyzul, salvage and merit party, accuracy was not a serious issue (except on bird camps and mamook THF). Can't comment on HNMs as I have never done them ><

  2. #1862
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekradarken View Post
    I remember during ToAU time, pizza was a popular food and many ppl build their gears to adapt to pizza food. So on most low man contents like nyzul, salvage and merit party, accuracy was not a serious issue (except on bird camps and mamook THF). Can't comment on HNMs as I have never done them ><
    as weird as it sounds birds always seemed worse then hnm's but at hnm's at least you could pop some food in your belly (don't remember having to mind you)

  3. #1863
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    Squid sushi and kabobs were unofficially required at birds among those who cared about their party's productivity.

  4. #1864
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsudoku View Post
    Squid sushi and kabobs were unofficially required at birds among those who cared about their party's productivity.
    think we did 2 brds 1 cor 3 wars got chains of 150+ then someone would have to pee :/

  5. #1865
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    Nothing special, but seem fitting for the title, and to get this thread back on track. 1/2 with help from some JP friends.
    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...015_120231.png

  6. #1866
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    only 1-2 pieces were good for some jobs.
    No, all but 1-2 pieces were good for some jobs. Almost every piece of the other sets had a niche use that it was either best or equal-best at. Just because they might not have been for your jobs does not make them junk. I'm certain every single piece of skadi/ares/marduk (except ares's feet) was the best, or 2nd best to a kings abj, at something. Even if it was only for one thing on one job.

  7. #1867
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    hi kese i already posted a ss about that princess tiara headpiece brah :D

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    come on over asura, to get your very own!

  9. #1869
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    No, all but 1-2 pieces were good for some jobs. Almost every piece of the other sets had a niche use that it was either best or equal-best at. Just because they might not have been for your jobs does not make them junk. I'm certain every single piece of skadi/ares/marduk (except ares's feet) was the best, or 2nd best to a kings abj, at something. Even if it was only for one thing on one job.
    He clearly meant war and sam since they were the only jobs back then worth existing. Nevermind that the sets had uses for their respective jobs. Even Marduk aka the shitty set could be used for fast cast bonus back then. I think they don't want to admit most of the gear was useful despite going through far greater lengths for a single job piece (eg ridill and all the other HNM crap with waiting lists that could get to be years long)just so that they can argue with Pchan.

  10. #1870
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    Just because a piece of gear is good for a non-popular job, doesnt make it irrelevant.

  11. #1871
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    He clearly meant war and sam since they were the only jobs back then worth existing. Nevermind that the sets had uses for their respective jobs. Even Marduk aka the shitty set could be used for fast cast bonus back then. I think they don't want to admit most of the gear was useful despite going through far greater lengths for a single job piece (eg ridill and all the other HNM crap with waiting lists that could get to be years long)just so that they can argue with Pchan.
    if you would have read my post 2 pages back you would have clearly known that I was talking about WHM WAR COR SCH DNC (my jobs back then).
    And I also stated that Usukane and morrigan were the best for the respectives jobs that could wear it.
    I also stated that the only reason for me on salvage would have been skadi (which I was doing for corr.) I said that from the other 2 sets left (ares and marduk) only 1-2 pieces were useful for some of those jobs.

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    Full Morrigan was a sick nuking set, but a pimped out blm would have had better numbers via mix n match gear. I vaguely remember crunching these numbers, but it involved a Genie Weskit, Zenith+1

  13. #1873
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Full Morrigan was a sick nuking set, but a pimped out blm would have had better numbers via mix n match gear. I vaguely remember crunching these numbers, but it involved a Genie Weskit, Zenith+1
    Zenith+1 hands would almost never have been better than Morrigan's hands, back at 75 magic accuracy was hard to come by and BLM was working with uncapped hit rates on anything worth a damn, so every little bit you could get was an improvement, especially if you were using Sorc. Petasos before. The other 4/5 pieces of Morrigan's set were mostly top tier for nuking, so I'm pretty sure the full set was the best thing since there's no partial set bonus (there was nothing useful in head/foot slot that added more than another 1-3 INT each at the time, so those was easily outweighed by the set bonus). Unless when you say Genie Weskit, you mean one augmented with INT+6 (lolrandomaugments).

  14. #1874
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    I don't even know when FoV's lolaugments came out in relation to salvage.

    I wanna say salvage came quite a while before but it's all a haze at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    I don't even know when FoV's lolaugments came out in relation to salvage.

    I wanna say salvage came quite a while before but it's all a haze at this point.
    It did.
    The only thing was when someone got INT+ on a weskit, you could get a set that's technically better than Morrigans 5/5. I think it was something like augmented Weskit, the expansionette hat setup for nukes, Zenith+1, Morrig Legs, and Yigit Feet. You could also put in FoV Augmented Mahatma slops or Valk Trews from Einherjar were pretty dope. This all came down to getting INT+ on a weskit though, even better if it was a Genie but lolFoV. I shot for 5/5 Morrig as my first Salvage set and loved it~

    Also MAcc wasn't THAT much of a problem with Elemental merits, but on shit like Tiamat I used a mix & match set favoring more MAcc this is true.


    Edit; missed this little tidbit
    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    The other 4/5 pieces of Morrigan's set were mostly top tier for nuking,
    Actually feet were the real weak link on the set, head was pretty meh too especially when AF+1 had more INT on it, only thing that saved it was the MAcc. Those two pieces were the reason you could bypass the set and mix & match pretty much.

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    I don't think it gets any better than that folks

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    STR+4 random pool augment instead of Skillchain damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    STR+4 random pool augment instead of Skillchain damage.
    What if main use of the piece was for Sam, would SC dmg+ outweigh +str or doesn't matter if we're thinking it's not reliable to SC?

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    Essentially no job skillchains unless they're solo or duo these days. If you're in a serious event, you have serious buffs (including capped haste) and you can't skillchain (or at least be sure you're skillchaining) because you have other DDs exploding the monster with you. Also, if STR+4 increases your Shoha damage by 1% then you've increased the resulting skillchain damage by at least 1%, so even if you're skillchaining Skillchain damage +3% might not be better than STR+4.

    Still, getting STR+4 with good other augments would be incredibly unlikely. I'd definitely stop with that Kabuto regardless how many 1k tatters I see.

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