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  1. #1941
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    Ediit: NVM. Can't read.

  2. #1942
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Outside of FC, would you even use that over ker's?
    Dunno bout you, but I know a whole bunch of plds that really want PLD/NIN to become a thing again.

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    It'd be useful any time you were taking hits from multiple targets (without Marches and such, though including that if there are enough).

    Ker's isn't even useful, really, I just had it in my inventory because I didn't know what the stats were.

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    Oh fair. I also thought shield mastery worked differently than bgwiki says. So nvm, am hurr.

  5. #1945
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    A lot of gil just for bard stuffs but it makes salvage pretty enjoyable. Still not close to optimal on the hands and feet, but I'm really happy with the head and body augments. The legs could be better but I'm not sure if the +2 STP is worth buying more seals for a dual wielding bard.

  6. #1946
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpu View Post


    A lot of gil just for bard stuffs but it makes salvage pretty enjoyable. Still not close to optimal on the hands and feet, but I'm really happy with the head and body augments. The legs could be better but I'm not sure if the +2 STP is worth buying more seals for a dual wielding bard.
    Isn't bard af2+2 body way better than kirin's?

  7. #1947
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    3 DW + 2 Crit vs 25Att if acc capped. Should the attack win for TP phase then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    Isn't bard af2+2 body way better than kirin's?
    I modified the Thief DPS xml for bard and Kirin 3DW 2CR comes out ahead of Bard AF2+2 in pretty much all situations. It might only be due to the fact that I've got d.harp so I'm fulltiming double march and min, but even if you only have double march the delay reduction is pretty significant since you'll be capped on magic and gear haste.

    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    3 DW + 2 Crit vs 25Att if acc capped. Should the attack win for TP phase then?
    AF2+2 actually comes out ahead on WS but not TP

  9. #1949
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpu View Post
    AF2+2 actually comes out ahead on WS but not TP
    Of course it comes out ahead for WS lol... You're comparing 10Str/Dex/Agi vs 10Str/Dex/Agi+25Attack for Exen/Mercy/Rudra. Hmmm, 25 Att or 0 Att? Tough!

  10. #1950
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    Idk man, BRD att caps so easy. It's all about WSing in style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Of course it comes out ahead for WS lol... You're comparing 10Str/Dex/Agi vs 10Str/Dex/Agi+25Attack for Exen/Mercy/Rudra. Hmmm, 25 Att or 0 Att? Tough!
    You left out the crit rate aug on Kirin's Osode in your little slag but yes, the 25 attack will still win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpu View Post
    You left out the crit rate aug on Kirin's Osode in your little slag but yes, the 25 attack will still win.
    Exenterator, Mercy Stroke and Rudra's Storm can crit now? Good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Exenterator, Mercy Stroke and Rudra's Storm can crit now? Good to know.
    Hahaha, yeah I also use exenterator over evisceration on bard, because I'm smart like you

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    DC mobs, BRD/DNC, YCB, Dia II.
    Evisceration:
    Heca+1/Rancor/Ghillie+1/Brutal
    AF2+2/Heca+1/Thundersoul/Rajas
    Atheling/Anguinus/Heca+1/Heca+1

    WS Dmg: 1557

    Exenterator:
    Heca+1/Hyoui's/Ghillie+1/Brutal
    AF2+2/Skote/Stormsoul/Stormsoul
    Atheling/Anguinus/Heca+1/Heca+1

    WS Dmg: 1905.

    K.

    Oh, and Exenterator, even with that Evis gear above still cam out ahead. So yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    DC mobs, BRD/DNC, YCB, Dia II.
    Evisceration:
    Heca+1/Rancor/Ghillie+1/Brutal
    AF2+2/Heca+1/Thundersoul/Rajas
    Atheling/Anguinus/Heca+1/Heca+1

    WS Dmg: 1557

    Exenterator:
    Heca+1/Hyoui's/Ghillie+1/Brutal
    AF2+2/Skote/Stormsoul/Stormsoul
    Atheling/Anguinus/Heca+1/Heca+1

    WS Dmg: 1905.

    K.

    Oh, and Exenterator, even with that Evis gear above still cam out ahead. So yeah...
    Why wouldn't you use Moonshade earring for WS? I don't even understand the last sentence that you wrote but you seem really fucking stupid so that's not very surprising :/


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    lol @ Minimum WS TP 300

    Other than that retarded shit I dont see what that screencap is showing.

    Exen is the better WS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake View Post
    lol @ Minimum WS TP 300

    Other than that retarded shit I dont see what that screencap is showing.

    Exen is the better WS
    You little cunt!!!!!!!!!!


    User was infracted for this post.

  18. #1958
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Of course it comes out ahead for WS lol... You're comparing 10Str/Dex/Agi vs 10Str/Dex/Agi+25Attack for Exen/Mercy/Rudra. Hmmm, 25 Att or 0 Att? Tough!
    Quote Originally Posted by cpu View Post
    You left out the crit rate aug on Kirin's Osode in your little slag but yes, the 25 attack will still win.
    Quote Originally Posted by cpu View Post
    Why wouldn't you use Moonshade earring for WS? I don't even understand the last sentence that you wrote but you seem really fucking stupid so that's not very surprising :/
    I wanted to find a YouTube video of Peter Griffin saying "Don't get penis-ey," but it let me down.

    You guys should get what I'm saying, though.

    EDIT: Oh, it seems that my warning came too late.

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    Again, changing the screencap with the adjusted minimum tp without providing gear screen isn't really helping you make your case either

    There is still a difference in cycle time thats too large to be accounted for purely by WS

  20. #1960
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake View Post
    There is still a difference in cycle time thats too large to be accounted for purely by WS
    Yes, there is a sightly longer cycle time... due to slightly fewer WS hits babe.

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