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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    I was told Hauby +1, and I'd go with Triumph Earring, <3STR<3
    Depends what melee WS though, to be fair. For Guillotine for example Aesir all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    I was told Hauby +1, and I'd go with Triumph Earring, <3STR<3
    Did they specify why haub+1 for TP? (not being argumentative, just curious).

    Difference between em...
    4 Str, 4 Dex, 4 acc, 1 triple attack vs -7.5 attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maytag* View Post
    Did they specify why haub+1 for TP? (not being argumentative, just curious).

    Difference between em...
    4 Str, 4 Dex, 4 acc, 1 triple attack vs -7.5 attack.

    Difference is more like

    4 STR, 4 DEX (~3 Acc), 1% TA vs ~9 Attack


    Imo (but without number crunching it) it probably pretty much comes down to if the Acc does anything for you, or allows for swaps elsewhere, then Noct will win. And that scenario probably occurs far more often than it doesn't.

    I just know that when I worked it out against Adaberk, Adaberk won by a decent-ish margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devinry View Post
    For RDM nuking (SCNM soloing and such):

    8 MAcc
    43 INT
    14 MAB
    37 Skill

    vs.

    10 MAcc
    51 INT
    10 MAB
    32 Skill

    My guess would be the second set, but just making sure.
    I'd go with the second set.

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    For capped Haste on MNK: Turban + Tiercel Necklace vs Acubens + Faith Torque. Assuming Salvage mobs/boss, no H2H merits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    For capped Haste on MNK: Turban + Tiercel Necklace vs Acubens + Faith Torque. Assuming Salvage mobs/boss, no H2H merits.
    Dont use Tiercel on mnk.

    Just stick with Turban/Haidate/Fuma/BB, or full Usukane. The .39% haste added by Acubens or Tiercel isnt worth the -10 acc on Acubens or -7 acc/att from torque..

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    have denali, enkidu's, and skadi eventually (need 25). I don't intend to get anything else so between those 3?

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    Enkidu's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen View Post
    set #2 would most likely be better since you're likely to be getting a couple of resists

    get the feeling a better set alltogether could be made from your gear, if you post what you have available.
    Head: AF+1 hat
    Neck: elemental torque
    Ears: moldavite, morion+1 (no novio)
    Body: errant body
    Hands: morrigan's cuffs
    Rings: snow ring, omega ring
    Back: gleeman's cape
    Waist: penitent's rope
    Legs: mahatma slops, duelist's tights
    Feet: nashira crackows, duelist's boots

    The legs/feet slots are where I mix and matched to get the two sets above. I also have goliard clogs if those would be better.

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    if you were to start with your best accuracy gear (af2 pants+ nash feet) - as advised for SCNM, should you feel your m.acc is excessive:

    swapping from af2 pants -->mahatma
    or
    and nash -> goliard clogs

    both equally effective in terms of dropping m.acc for damage (pants being double effect for double loss)

    switching feet to af2 should be the last thing you do, as it's the least efficient swap
    m.acc <-> dmg out of the 5 changeable pieces you mentioned.

    sorry i couldn't give you any real good information, those pieces are all pretty close except for af2feet

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    I have:
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    Currently I'm using Mirke with the assumption that the 5 dex beats the 7 extra str on Hecatomb and 10 att on Enkidu's. Am I doing it wrong? Assuming it's always stacked with sneak attack.

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    sounds like your doing it right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Dont use Tiercel on mnk.

    Just stick with Turban/Haidate/Fuma/BB, or full Usukane. The .39% haste added by Acubens or Tiercel isnt worth the -10 acc on Acubens or -7 acc/att from torque..
    sure, if you ignore that you'll cap acc on anything on the first ~5 floors of salv naked(and he mentioned salvage)

    acubens+tiercel+usu feet if possible, acubens + faith + fuma if not

    if you need to wear accuracy somewhere, acubens is your first sacrifice~

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    I really do think you pick the devils advocate just to be argumentative Thorny in every possible post you make.

    Ask yourself questions like:

    Do you have Dex unlocked yet?

    Are you eating meat or pizza?

    Do you have enough slots unlocked on the earlier floors to justify the marginal haste increase versus loss of attack and acc?

    The common sense answer is "dont wear Teircel on Mnk", and Acubens is extremely situational (focus times on first floor depending on food/zones/cells), but Jesus I'm sure you'll postulate some situation and math out the results for sushi using Mnks riding focus on BR first floor with full equipment unlocked while attacking feinted mobs during windsday at 3am just to be "that guy". Are you that desperate to put in your opinion?

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    And yet you felt the need to be argumentative?

    Let him disagree, and move the fuck on.

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    Oh, right, he wasnt being argumentative by trolling around and disagreeing with any post made, even if he was giving bad advice, it's actually me being argumentative by pointing out how childish that is.

    Right.

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    guillotine gear,

    appropriate gorget v j.torque?

    @capped acc
    @6.3acc off cap?
    @really high levels of atk?

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    I was thinking of this myself. I came to the conclusion that JTorque will beat Gorget if accuracy is not needed and Attack is not capped and if it is... situational. Perhaps still a better swap than Potent => Warwolf or what have you, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen View Post
    guillotine gear,

    appropriate gorget v j.torque?

    @capped acc
    @6.3acc off cap?
    @really high levels of atk?
    Snow, snow, and snow. Someone correct me if I am way off here, but gorget should almost always win even without needing the extra acc. Compared to no neck, justice is giving you 2 base damage from str (1 fstr, 1 wsc) and 10 or 11 attack. So the str is giving you 8 damage times whatever your pdif is. The 0.1 ftp from the gorget is giving you like 15 damage times your pdif (possibly as low as 12 damage if you are a taru with no str merits using vengeance). Your pdif has to be pretty low for 11 attack * 4 hits to make up that difference, like down around 1.3 or so I think. And that is assuming all 4 hits land. The gorget's damage boost is only dependant on the first hit landing, justice is only giving you 6 damage when 1 hit misses (which happens nearly 1/5 of the time). So unless you are fighting something level 85 with 300+ defense and you have no chaos roll, minuets or angon, snow should win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    sure, if you ignore that you'll cap acc on anything on the first ~5 floors of salv naked(and he mentioned salvage)

    acubens+tiercel+usu feet if possible, acubens + faith + fuma if not

    if you need to wear accuracy somewhere, acubens is your first sacrifice~
    Well, since mnk is much higher on the DoT portion of the DoT/WS ratio split, I'd actually wear justice torque before Tiercel. Especially pre-str cell. If your str is uncapped, I don't see .39 haste beating 1-2 fstr, of course this is AFTER you unlock all your gear and it becomes .39 haste instead of 1 (but even in my case, not worth it unless neck is like my first piece of gear, since I have an extra 4 from imperial ready to go @ rings unlock)

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