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    Edit: Double post, internet acted up.

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    You're completely ignoring the fact that SE DID have those JA and spells at full power when they came out but nerfed them because they were too powerful to the point where the main job was ignored.
    Convert nowadays on a whm or most jobs wouldn't nearly be as overpowered in "normal" mode compared to sch sj.

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    Full Souleater would be bad news, but I think its about time they gave everyone else full Meditate. Its not like its that amazing at the speed that we attack these days.

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    sekka as a sub job is going to be broken as fuck, quiet down before they change their mind.

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    Why? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    You're completely ignoring the fact that SE DID have those JA and spells at full power when they came out but nerfed them because they were too powerful to the point where the main job was ignored.
    Convert nowadays on a whm or most jobs wouldn't nearly be as overpowered in "normal" mode compared to sch sj.
    No, I didn't ignore that actually... I didn't know that. Point being is, they did nerf them. I can picture them nerfing Convert too to an extent. Why do I say this? I've seeked merits as WHM/SCH before, and in a good amount of cases where I've actually gotten invites, I was requested to job change to Red Mage, and it was because of Convert so I 'wouldn't have to rest'.. I don't merit anymore nowadays (capped until SCH75, etc), but back then that's what I dealt with.

    Full Souleater would be bad news, but I think its about time they gave everyone else full Meditate. Its not like its that amazing at the speed that we attack these days.
    I'd like that for my DRK, honestly.

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    Gothic Sabatons or War AF feet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Why? lol
    cause now when you lag, and you have that wasted hit, you can hit sekkanoki and your next WS will be a 5 hit!

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    Kurodachi 6 hit with haste. or Kurodochi 5 hit with hachiman+1 hands and Ecphoria, rose strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staleyx View Post
    Kurodachi 6 hit with haste. or Kurodochi 5 hit with hachiman+1 hands and Ecphoria, rose strap.
    6 hit. no point droping a hit when you double attack so often ( mathed in magian thread: 5 hit is 5% ish inferior to 6 hit, due to high multiattack rate and low haste).

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    I know there was some math earlier about Champion's Galea (STR+4 WS dmg+2%) vs. maat's cap for y/g/k that the Galea wins. Has anyone figured out if Nocturnus helm will be better vs. Galea for y/g/k? Also what about Kaiten?

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    There was math for Kaiten regarding MKD helm vs Orc helm back when the expansion came out, and I recall Orc helm edging it out. Seeing as Nocturnus is an upgrade to Orc helm, it would follow that Nocturnus is even better for Kaiten.

    For Y/G/K, mdkuser posted maths about Nocturnus last thread, where I think it wins with capped acc on potential double attacks. However that likely isn't the case, depending on the target you're fighting, given all the accuracy that gets macroed out of Y/G/K sets.

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    For PLD oshit:
    NQ Darksteel or Koenig (applies to all slots)?
    and Soulsaber (VIT+4 PDT-5) and Koenig shield or Terra's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentRemora View Post
    For PLD oshit:
    NQ Darksteel or Koenig (applies to all slots)?
    and Soulsaber (VIT+4 PDT-5) and Koenig shield or Terra's?
    Depends on situation.

    Are you at capped HP? What food are you using? What are you fighting?

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    not capped HP, around 1400~1450, using tav taco and fighting sky/sea/vnm mobs

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    Assuming this Drakesbane set, and capped accuracy.....
    Conte Cosciales, or Aurum Cuisses?
    (Galea has STR, AGI, WS DMG, WS ACC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentRemora View Post
    not capped HP, around 1400~1450, using tav taco and fighting sky/sea/vnm mobs
    Darksteel will provide you slightly better PDT when using Tacos and a bit more protection from a triple crit hit from Byakko.

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    Monk, full usukane + BB. Sushi/pizza scenario.
    Faith torque or tiercel necklace for 0.6 haste?

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    Assuming accuracy is capped with your food, tiercel. If you're getting even 1% hitrate from faith, faith.

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    Hmm, I think Necklace gives .39% haste, but might be wrong.

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