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    CDF, I misread your comment about the ability to activate shinobi ring, my bad. Using Wyvern Earring to hit the haste cap is essentially the only argument you can make about subbing DRG over WAR so I got ahead of myself.

    Dual wield is essentially the butterface of attack speed. From afar it looks like it's haste, but when you get close you realize that it's not nearly as good, especially when you can have Double Attack give you the same net swings with higher TP returns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    There is a 3 str difference between Maat's and the aforementioned Galea of 4 str and 2% WS damage.
    Oops, was thinking it was 2 STR with the WS damage as well. The DA accuracy thing is kind of silly given that a lot of the other new max STR gear has tons of accuracy down on it so Brutal isn't as worthwhile as it used to be since new builds can have you lower than your TP builds' accuracy.

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    It may be that I'm wrong, but I don't believe DAs get a pDIF boost. Assuming they don't get an acc boost either, you're looking at a very small loss in damage by dropping that 35 accuracy - best case is around 0.3% for a 7% DA WS build.

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    For my RNG, I am using the Kupo expansion head piece for WS. I was thinking of changing this to something for my BLM, and using the Bersail Cap for WS now. How does this compare to other head pieces? Also is Bersail Cap good for Barrage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    For my RNG, I am using the Kupo expansion head piece for WS. I was thinking of changing this to something for my BLM, and using the Bersail Cap for WS now. How does this compare to other head pieces? Also is Bersail Cap good for Barrage?
    Bersail compared to str+4 agi+4 wsdmg+2% wsacc+15% MKD cap is pure shit for ws (even more if we talking about bows, even more if you uuse Refulgant arrow on 300tp)
    Ranged is higher then melee affected by str for fstr2 so
    MKD add 3,64 base dmg on bow and 3,2 on gun
    Bersail 2 on bow and 2,4 on gun
    but the real winner here is 2% dmg. If you doing lets say 2k sidewinder with 2pdif(200base dmg) then 2%wsdmg is equal to 4 base dmg.
    So you looking at (mkd) +7,64 on bow and +7,2 on gun vs (bersail)2 on bow and 2,4 on gun.
    Also Mkd still has higher acc 15 vs 12 and higher ratt 2 vs 0.
    As for barrage better still would be imo Zha'go but its hard to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Bersail compared to str+4 agi+4 wsdmg+2% wsacc+15% MKD cap is pure shit for ws (even more if we talking about bows, even more if you uuse Refulgant arrow on 300tp)
    Ranged is higher then melee affected by str for fstr2 so
    MKD add 3,64 base dmg on bow and 3,2 on gun
    Bersail 2 on bow and 2,4 on gun
    but the real winner here is 2% dmg. If you doing lets say 2k sidewinder with 2pdif(200base dmg) then 2%wsdmg is equal to 4 base dmg.
    So you looking at (mkd) +7,64 on bow and +7,2 on gun vs (bersail)2 on bow and 2,4 on gun.
    Also Mkd still has higher acc 15 vs 12 and higher ratt 2 vs 0.
    As for barrage better still would be imo Zha'go but its hard to get.
    I have Zha'go's. I was asking if the MKD was better for RNG or BLM, basically.

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    what head did you have in mind for blm ringthree, cause hecates crown is now a cheap option for good damage now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    Great, thanks. One more question about GKTs: is the OAT DMG:71 Delay:464 still the best feasible option (i.e. outside Masamune and the Coin of Decay x30 one) for pure damage output?
    Neosutra answered it a while back, so I dug it up for you.

    I believe it was worked out to be:

    Upgraded Relic > OA2 > Masamune (for now) > 91 base damage (stp one with 464 delay + 5 hit) > 91 base damage (450 delay one) > 89 Radenotachi = Hagun = Soboro (each are stronger in different situations).

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    I forgot to put Hochomasamune in there. If you have the STP to keep a 6 hit with the high base damage and 420 delay it's up there with the 5 hit 91 base damage magian Great Katana. (Comfortably beats it actually).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    I forgot to put Hochomasamune in there.
    Huh?

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    Probably meant Hiradennotachi

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    Woops actually meant: Scathacha

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Scathacha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    It may be that I'm wrong, but I don't believe DAs get a pDIF boost. Assuming they don't get an acc boost either, you're looking at a very small loss in damage by dropping that 35 accuracy - best case is around 0.3% for a 7% DA WS build.
    Would it be wise to not use Brutal Earring once I get Heafoc and Varangian on Y/G/K then?

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    Got skimmed in random question, can anyone tell me which piece of SCH AF is better to +1 first?

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    The gown seems to be the only piece worth upgrading.

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    I hit BRD 80 last night so it's time to reevaluate some items. I know the skill vs. CHR topic was never really found out, still wondering though.

    BRD Enfeebling Leg piece for Elegy and Lullaby.

    Teal Slops: CHR+5 Magic Acc+3
    Choral Cannions+1: Wind Instrument Skill+8 Enmity-2
    Bard Cannions: CHR+8


    Usually I used AF+1 but I was wondering how Teal would do. Not like my Elegy and Lullaby get resisted at all lately, just like getting the best out of my Bard.

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    AF+1 would be giving you the best magic accuracy, followed by Teal, then AF2.

    Of course Byakko's Haidate are arguably the better lullaby piece for the haste since in Dynamis, Einherjar and similar events you shouldn't have much resistance, but you will have tons of mobs to keep slept.

    Same reasoning goes for turabn vs AF2 and any other comparison for things you don't have resistance issues on.

    Elegy you would probably want full magic accuracy gear since you shouldn't be spamming it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by requim View Post
    AF+1 would be giving you the best magic accuracy, followed by Teal, then AF2.

    Of course Byakko's Haidate are arguably the better lullaby piece for the haste since in Dynamis, Einherjar and similar events you shouldn't have much resistance, but you will have tons of mobs to keep slept.

    Same reasoning goes for turabn vs AF2 and any other comparison for things you don't have resistance issues on.

    Elegy you would probably want full magic accuracy gear since you shouldn't be spamming it.
    I do have Haidate, Turban, Swift Belt, Manteel+ Minstrel ring and Sha'ir Gloves in my Haste Set for events where I don't get resisted and wanna sing as fast as I can and lower recast. Was just wondering how the new pieces compare for my full potency set. :D Ty for the answer, confirmed what I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnat View Post
    Got skimmed in random question, can anyone tell me which piece of SCH AF is better to +1 first?
    Head or body were both nice. Before the update I'd have said head then body as the INT is nice and you keep it on all the time; now I'd say body.

    Basically any piece of SCH gear you use regularly is worth +1ing. I've done head/body/feet. Problem is now that with Teal (combined with relic) you're probably not wearing the body unless on resistant mobs.

    YMMV but if you don't have merits in ele skill and you have to use the body to nuke effectively, do that. Head is nice for sublimation and slightly larger MP pool now.

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    assuming you care about THF outside of TH4...

    should I be using...



    Evisc+10% dmg/X's Knife (I know this is going to give the prettiest numbers)

    or

    some combination of str/dex affinity trail weapons? (im thinking 1dex, 1 str?)

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    RNG - TP - Gun - 5/5 Snapshot & 5/5 Rapid Shot merits:

    Hunter's Beret +1 or Aurore Beret

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