What's Better?

[Khajit]

Going by parsing vs high lv mobs on my and nearby jobs so far i have to say it's almost impossible to miss just about everything at this point so go grim/blitz. 2h DD capped everything in meat and 1h DD capped on pizza but i didnt check if the 1 DD coulda gone without pizza.
(it's a small sample size and i dont know if you meant for pld or wanted to change to carbonara over sushi/pizza and so on so forth.)

[requim]

You're incorrect on the bolded part since full perle gives the same haste bonus as a standard homam DD set and is without a doubt superior in every way unless you have a stp body that drops a hit. If one had dusk+1 gloves the haste values would be different.

I don't understand why you are always so pedantic.

There are plenty of builds that beat full perle that include homam. This obviously doesn't include homamx3+turban since it is unequivocally inferior (which I didn't say). It does however, still include some pieces of homam.

It just goes back to the fact that full perle is okay gear, but is easily ousted by rarer gear.

[Ned]

...
Reckoning(7)
Rose Strap(4)
Aurum Cuirass(7)
White Tath(2)
Rajas Ring(5)
Brutal Earring(1)
..

Can I get some help understanding this plz :D

Is this relying on all 4 hits of Guillotine landing ? I can't work out using STP formulas how thats WS + 4 hit to 100 TP

41 STP (inc /sam) = 19.5 TP per hit
.. requiring all 4 hits (78)
..same STP in WS and 4 hits gives (22.5)

to get 100 TP... or what am i missing ?!

Ty

[Xno Kappa]

Wait, full perle gear is better the homamx3+turban?

[fredjanx]

Wait, full perle gear is better the homamx3+turban?

Full perle is better than turban/ebody/x3 homam (you'll look like you came from a conveyor belt, though)

as for the above poster:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7319/reckoning.png
However, you don't need white tath (not sure why I included it) and you should be able to WS in ebody np.

[belzedar]

There are plenty of builds that beat full perle that include homam. This obviously doesn't include homamx3+turban since it is unequivocally inferior (which I didn't say). It does however, still include some pieces of homam.

It just goes back to the fact that full perle is okay gear, but is easily ousted by rarer gear.

Such as? Outside of dusk +1, or an stp body, I couldn't think of one a couple weeks ago, unless you mean for something like a drk zerg, or are willing to sacrifice haste somewhere. Consider this hypothetical set:

Moogle Galea 5% Haste 2 Dex
Nocturnus Mail 10 Str 10 Dex 12 acc 1% triple
Homam Hands 3% Haste Hands 4 acc
Shantotto Pants 3% Haste 2 Str 7 acc
Homam Feet 3% Haste 6 acc
= 14% Haste, 12 Str, 12 Dex, 29 acc (35 or 38 total), (6 or 9 attack total), 1% triple

Perle = 14% Haste, 22 Str, 14 Dex, 18 acc (25 or 28.5), 25 attack (36 or 41.5 total), +2% Critical hit rate

11 acc (10 or 9.5 total), 1% triple
vs.
10 Str, 2 dDex, 25 attack (30 or 32.5 total), 2% critical hit rate

If you have nocturnus or e body, can take full advantage of the acc, and don't mind using your MKE and ASA items for TP sets, I guess it's close?

[Epysian]

I think the two are actually pretty close if you need hachiman/askar for a 5-hit (assuming OP would bother getting Rose strap).

If for the next cap upgrade they don't introduce something better than Tomoe or Love Halberd for SAM's to use, the G.katana may see a resurgence in merits/exp/zerg which would make the Kasha damage Keito more attractive as well.

I'm no mathologist (thought I have done some of the math for my own personal gear/situation). Just adding to the discussion.

You do bring up a good point. That's why I'm so wary of pursuing Magian weapons at the moment. Never know what the next two updates will bring. And I've been doing the math, and 5 hitting the Keitonotachi is a lot more annoying than I thought.

[Yugl]

Perle is top tier for DRK and DRG unless they're capable of sporting a 5-hit using Aurum Body. For DRK, this is easily obtainable, but for DRG, it takes a lot of the new gear.

[Khajit]

You can also use carbonara since most mobs no longer appear to have acc issues for 5 hit while wearing perle.

[Diddy Kong]

19 DMG, 61 Delay, +4 STR and +12 attack or Destroyers?

[Khajit]

Destroyers are dead.

[fredjanx]

19 DMG, 61 Delay, +4 STR and +12 attack or Destroyers?

finish these. They end with 22 DMG, STR +6 and ATK +16, and same delay

[Neosutra]

Afflictors.

Twice the awesomeness (from looks alone).

1/100ths the bullshit from Magians.

[Diddy Kong]

finish these. They end with 22 DMG, STR +6 and ATK +16, and same delay

They are finished, I just haven't turned them in since I'm not 80 yet.

[Motenten]

At that stage they're borderline equal to a smidge ahead of Destroyers.

[azagarth]

takes few hrs in abyseaa to get 80.... so just go that and turn them in. problem solved.

[Neosutra]

Or just kill Carabossa and get a superior h2h weapon for 1/100th of the time investment, like I said above.

[Onorgul]

Nothing about Afflictors seems superior to STR Taipan Fangs. Get to 80, argument goes away.

[promethius]

should i get the OAT polearm or the OA2-3 one? im at that point that i have to choose but im not sure if the one extra hit would out do the DMG diffrence.

[Massimo]

should i get the OAT polearm or the OA2-3 one? im at that point that i have to choose but im not sure if the one extra hit would out do the DMG diffrence.

At 80, the OAT one is the best. No one can really predict what'll happen at 90.