What's Better?

[Byrthnoth]

Here is an aid to help you compare daggers. The DA+7 dagger (Constructive DA+7) option doesn't work, so to compare it you need to add 7% to the base DA rate, see what the values are (copy/paste special "Values") and then change it back for comparison with other cases.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JAWG4O8Y

Personally, I'm going with 1 DEX/Acc Kila, STP Fusetto, Auric Dagger (if he ever drops), and OA2-3. The AGI Kilas look better every day, but I just finished the three above Daggers and I'm a little burnt out on daggers at the moment and I don't have any evasion build for them to compliment.

Solo tanking: Agi/agi kilas
Duo tanking: Agi/Agi Kilas
TP burn Healing: Auric/2-3 or DEX/2-3
DMG: Auric/DEX. Auric/STR may be better depending what you're fighting, but Auric/DEX potentially lets you switch foods to something with more attack anyway.

[Atoreis]

Here is an aid to help you compare daggers. The DA+7 dagger (Constructive DA+7) option doesn't work, so to compare it you need to add 7% to the base DA rate, see what the values are (copy/paste special "Values") and then change it back for comparison with other cases.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JAWG4O8Y

Personally, I'm going with 1 DEX/Acc Kila, STP Fusetto, Auric Dagger (if he ever drops), and OA2-3. The AGI Kilas look better every day, but I just finished the three above Daggers and I'm a little burnt out on daggers at the moment and I don't have any evasion build for them to compliment.

Solo tanking: Agi/agi kilas
Duo tanking: Agi/Agi Kilas
TP burn Healing: Auric/2-3 or DEX/2-3
DMG: Auric/DEX. Auric/STR may be better depending what you're fighting, but Auric/DEX potentially lets you switch foods to something with more attack anyway.

Dont forget 2x vit/pdt

[Ned]

...A safe bet would beThe Hyogugusarinotachi (Fire path), as you have a pretty good idea what the next upgrade will be....

Is it the 6 str that means ppl pick the 6 str/20 attack over the 6 dex/16 acc Gkat? I assume because old shit ur capped acc even with meat and harder acc situations ull use pizza anyway.

Isnt there an arguement to get the acc/dex one and that lets you eat meat which will help ur DOT and WS more than 6str/20attk?

Not saying there is.. trying to think of one myself but keep having hauby vs byrnie arguement play in the back of my head and the acc was always better.

Pizza is overkill for acc on many old things now and the acc might help cap out when using red buns. On new harder stuff the acc might be needed anyway?

I'm not even really conviving myself here but still thought worth getting some thoughts on it..

[urat]

Aeolian Edge, trying to make a magic attack build.

The magic attack daggers give me +6 int and +8 magic attack bonus, so if I'm right thats a total of +11 magic attack bonus total, +22 if I rock two of them at once.

Exactly how much does int/matt modify this weaponskill? Any ballpark ideas?

[Byrthnoth]

Aeolian Edge, trying to make a magic attack build.

The magic attack daggers give me +6 int and +8 magic attack bonus, so if I'm right thats a total of +11 magic attack bonus total, +22 if I rock two of them at once.

Exactly how much does int/matt modify this weaponskill? Any ballpark ideas?

INT is not directly translatable into MAB. People use the 2 INT ~= 1 MAB rule because it's approximately true for a medium to well-geared BLM for Tier 4 nukes (which were our bread and butter for years.)

Here you go:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca...n_Skill_Damage

[Atoreis]

Auric/DEX potentially lets you switch foods to something with more attack anyway.

Is that really good?

Dex kila + yellow curry:
5 str 6 dex 15acc 77 att
Str kila + marinara pizza+1:
6str 74 att 44 acc

[Karbuncle]

Disclaimer:Hypothetical BS incoming

Well he did say potentially. which i think means if your accuracy is being capped from the Acc from the Kila.

Now, However unlikely that situation may be above anything ~T/VT without merits, Still makes the acc after the first +15(From DEX Kila) dismissible in his given situation, since its assumed the Acc from the DEX Kila would put you at capped on what you're fighting allowing you to use Meat/Attack heavy food.

Also if you're going to use Marinara Pizza+1 don't jip the Attack food!

DEX Kila + Red Curry (useless stats to melee left out)
HP +25
Strength +7
Agility +1
Intelligence -2
Attack +23% (Cap: 150@652 Base Attack)
+
DEX+6
Acc+12

vs.

STR Kila + Marinara Pizza +1
HP +25
Attack +21% (55 cap)
Accuracy +11% (+15 putting you at capped accuracy as per the situation)
+
STR+6 Attack+16

Only expanding on your comparison. But my point was if you're capping accuracy from the 15 on the Kila on what you're fighting(the "Potential" in the quoted situaition) that 2STR and a few attack more from the R.C.B would outdue a STRKila/Pizza combo since the extra accuracy from the pizza would be useless to you.

only using weapons in this argument as its just an expansion on what the person above me posted!(Atoreis)

[Byrthnoth]

I was thinking potentially moving you from sushi to pizza, not pizza to meat.

Pizza+1 is 11%, sushi is 15%. 15 acc/4%=375 acc, which is somewhere around what we run. Keep in mind perfect dancers have no acc on body, hands, feet, neck, or earrings.

[Karbuncle]

It's been so long since i used sushi that just slipped my mind

[Atoreis]

+ Red Curry

yeah 100k food isnt a good way to compare weapons you will use 50% of the time. I could say I could go naked /blm and buy primewal brew and I would parse better also :D

[Darkmagi]

Red curry still costs 100k on your server? Stack of buns is like 70k here.

[Karbuncle]

yeah 100k food isnt a good way to compare weapons you will use 50% of the time. I could say I could go naked /blm and buy primewal brew and I would parse better also :D

Meant Red Curry Buns anyway, which i -think- i corrected in the later parts of my post, referring to it as "RBC", Red Curry Bun, Which are like 8k a piece now, and Dragon Meat is like what, 20k on most servers? 1 Meat = 1 Curry = 3 Buns(? Was it) on NQ.

Its not as expensive as you make it sound, and its certainly not the same as a 2,000,000 Cruor item...

[Rionel]

So I redid ACP... now with Aurore Doublet I'm not totally sure if it's worth turning the ACP Body into a WS-Hauby for my DNC even if it is better than Aurore.

Should I just try to make it something else? I'm making sure this time...

[Joemomma]

10acc DW+3?

[Nightfyre]

10acc DW+3?

Rapparee Harness says hi.

Either make it a WS piece, a Fast Cast piece, or use it on a different job. Can't think of any other useful DNC augments.

[Rionel]

So... not exactly a question rather than a continuation of the DNC MKE helm discussion from before.

It seems like the Waltz -2s augment is actually not really -2s.

Without it, Curing Waltz III reads 9~10s recast via Recast plugin.

With it, Curing Waltz III reads around 5~6s.

Is Recast being weird or is this for real?

[Nightfyre]

Recast plugin isn't always accurate, check it with a /recast command in your waltz macro and see if that's still the case.

[Byrthnoth]

Curing Waltz III's initial recast should be 8 sec iirc. Also, I got a Mirkegon for DNC QS and am satisfied with it.

[wop]

How much dmg difference, Hecate's crown+cape vs Teal and prism on SCH Stone V and T4 mostly

Just wanna know the numbers to see if it justifies spending 1.5 m on them losing 10INT

thanks

[Etherealdragon]

For best Thf/Nin DoT what would be best combination of daggers out of

Blau
Sirroco
35 Dmg Dex/Acc Dankini (Haven't finished Golems Yet)
OAThrice Dagger

Largely a question of tradeoff between Base Damage Vs. Delay I suppose, can see the appeal of various combinations but not sure which would be optimal

Also, where would the finished Dex/Acc Kila play in for future reference?

Thanks