What's Better?

[Dooom]

Tabard. 15 skill = 15 m.acc, 4 m.acc and 6 mnd/int is at best 10 m.acc combined.

[Jeryhn]

Now I had read somewhere that 3-5 skill was about equivalent to +1 magic accuracy. This is not the case?

Is there a source of info I could be linked to where the 1 skill = 1 acc conclusion was reached? Or are we basing this on the assumption that magic skill is extremely similar to combat skills?

[hypnotizd]

One thing you should note about said stoneskin build is that you no longer need as much +MND if you cap enhancing skill for level 80.

That's a valid point. I'll look and see how much +MND I can discard now the level cap is 80.

Edit:

If I can math right it looks like the new total MND at Lv.80 is 109 for capped BLM stoneskin... a difference of 5 MND from Lv.75.

[Dooom]

Now I had read somewhere that 3-5 skill was about equivalent to +1 magic accuracy. This is not the case?

Is there a source of info I could be linked to where the 1 skill = 1 acc conclusion was reached? Or are we basing this on the assumption that magic skill is extremely similar to combat skills?

http://kanican.livejournal.com/34049.html

[Crizto]

Now I had read somewhere that 3-5 skill was about equivalent to +1 magic accuracy. This is not the case?

Is there a source of info I could be linked to where the 1 skill = 1 acc conclusion was reached? Or are we basing this on the assumption that magic skill is extremely similar to combat skills?

Does 2stat/1stat = 1 Macc apply to Enfeebling Magic? And I always just assumed 15 Skill = 15 Acc

[Jeryhn]

http://kanican.livejournal.com/34049.html

Answers all my questions, thanks.

[lolwut]

just cheap

Yes, yes they are.

[Xera]

Does 2stat/1stat = 1 Macc apply to Enfeebling Magic? And I always just assumed 15 Skill = 15 Acc

Yes unless your dStat is really low its 2=1.

[Don Katsu]

Teal Body or NQ Weskit?
Teal slops or Morrigan's slops?

Target level 85-90

[gnat]

Haub+1 vs Blitz ring vs pocketing the gil on DRK?
Have haub+1, no blitz. Tp full perle, haub ws only piece at the moment, not much difference parsing guillotine between perle haub and +1.
Going to get rid of it either way before potential price crash of next update.
Can anyone tell me how much extra dmg 1% haste was supposed to equate to (would be going 18>19%)?

[Chen]

Teal Body or NQ Weskit?
Teal slops or Morrigan's slops?

Target level 85-90

teal body
legs are a toughie, will be very close regardless i think.

@ gnat, 18->19% haste (assuming you've got no other haste buffs, even just the spell) is about 1.25% dmg increase.

if you've capped acc for guillo, you'll probably be better off use the hauberk anyways, 2str v 3 attack basically. gil v hauby+1 v blitz? probably blitz, your acc will be capped during diabolic eye which you have 5/5 rite, so you're getting the use of blitz at least 60% of the time.

[gnat]

That's great cheers.

[Oulanbator]

Although I don't like the idea, I'm considering getting my Mnk from 75 to 80 only for salvage. However, doing this would also drive me into getting another trial weapon for Mnk, an idea I dislike even more. So I'm trying to find a quick and easy to get weapon to make Mnk worth something.

The relic-like weapons are out of question: I'd rather do these for Ninja.
The OAT weapons are out of question: tbh Footwork + OAT is one of the reasons I don't want to play Mnk.
The elemental weapons that require to kill during a specific day/weather are out of question as they will take a lot of time (and I don't have much time).

So, that leaves me with either:
- Barracudas, but they don't seem much better than Destroyers
- Taipan Fangs with debuff effect (def or eva down), but they seem pretty much the same as the Barracudas


Is there a weapon worth getting for Mnk that can be done/obtained fast and really brings something over Destroyers ?
I don't care about being the best Mnk out there, but it have to be better than my Ninja (which have strong magian weapons) or it's not worth the hassle.

Any input to help me figure it out ? Thanks in advance.

[Onorgul]

All things being equal, the Defense Down or Accuracy Down Taipan Fangs are only a marginal boost over Destroyers, especially given their low proc rate and erratic uptime. Both versions of Barracudas can be safely ignored. Really, the only "easy" option is to get a group for MMM and attempt to kill Skoll the Gnole for Lunaris Claws, and that's not particularly easy at all.

If you just intend to limp along at least until the next version update, you may as well continue to use Destroyers. Don't be shocked if your lack of progress down a Magian path is punished, though. SE has proved to be rather sporadic about releasing decent weapons outside of Magian Trials.

[Oulanbator]

Oh, I don't see it as a punishment, in fact it's quite good news.
I'd rather not progress on Mnk at all, and it seems the limited efforts I'm ready to involve into Mnk won't make it good enough to compete with my other jobs. However, Mnk have counterstance and offers a free DD for the 5 starting minutes in salvage, so it could have been useful to level it.

If Mnk isn't better than Nin without getting equivalent weapons, it means things are balanced between the two jobs which is great. I can trash my Mnk without a doubt nor a regret now ^^

Thanks for your help.

[Byrthnoth]

Oh, I don't see it as a punishment, in fact it's quite good news.
I'd rather not progress on Mnk at all, and it seems the limited efforts I'm ready to involve into Mnk won't make it good enough to compete with my other jobs. However, Mnk have counterstance and offers a free DD for the 5 starting minutes in salvage, so it could have been useful to level it.

Okay, I'm with you.

If Mnk isn't better than Nin without getting equivalent weapons, it means things are balanced between the two jobs which is great. I can trash my Mnk without a doubt nor a regret now ^^

Wait what? NIN is still trash for another month.

[FailureMidgard]

Wait what? NIN is still trash for another month.

Am I missing something? Why only for another month?

[Oulanbator]

He says one month because Nin will probably get another DW at 85.
But well, Ninja is far from being trash.

[Streak]

I'd rather not progress on Mnk at all, and it seems the limited efforts I'm ready to involve into Mnk won't make it good enough to compete with my other jobs.

If Mnk isn't better than Nin without getting equivalent weapons, it means things are balanced between the two jobs which is great. I can trash my Mnk without a doubt nor a regret now ^^

I don't know what other jobs your talking about, but with the recent bumps, I retired my war and sam in favour of mnk with the DMG90 soboro feets. It's not even a contest anymore. More hp, more ways to avoid damage, more damage, perfect counter. No reason for me to come on sam anymore at all.

Less than 2 minutes to kill LBC with monk/wars says hi.

It's only taken a few weeks to get poise shoes (farmed, not bought) and nearly done OA3. It's not any kind of monumental effort, and its worth every second invested in it.

Ninja is pretty lol, and I don't know if further updates can ever salvage it.

[Oulanbator]

I don't know what other jobs your talking about, but with the recent bumps, I retired my war and sam in favour of mnk with the DMG90 soboro feets. It's not even a contest anymore. More hp, more ways to avoid damage, more damage, perfect counter. No reason for me to come on sam anymore at all.

Less than 2 minutes to kill LBC with monk/wars says hi.

Indeed, doesn't sound bad.
Which are these ways to avoid damage besides perfect counter ?