Moblin Maze Mongers Manufacture Monstrous New Maze: Adventurers Aghast! (06/01/2010)

[shepardG]

Can I fight nidhogg, as a 6 man Love 80 group with a chance at n.legs dropping/ chest pop, equivalent to the drop spawn rate of koggelmander? I mean isn't it about time to bronze the fucking 486dx2 50 that runs dragons aery zone? I mean would it really be content ruining to do something like that?

[Karbuncle]

Everytime theres a MMM update someone mentions instancing Fafnir and Nidhogg⌐ ⌐

Guess what? If they did that instead of claiming Fafnir you'd be claiming the MMM Well, Same shit different day is all it would be.

Lower Jeuno would be the new Aery 24/7

[Shenrien]

Except for that one with the Curry Buns. That was a straight kick in the nuts.

Eh Curry Buns are pretty nice imo, saves people from eating 3hr food just for a 30min event.

[Alkar]

Everytime theres a MMM update someone mentions instancing Fafnir and Nidhogg⌐ ⌐

Guess what? If they did that instead of claiming Fafnir you'd be claiming the MMM Well, Same shit different day is all it would be.

Lower Jeuno would be the new Aery 24/7

Considering they're planning to add BLU spells from HNMs I don't think that's far from the truth. Maybe they'll have different drops but Blue Mages should have more options as usual. Something that doesn't involve waiting 24h to try again if possible.

[Shenrien]

would be interesting to see a BLU use Fulmination or Spike Flail lol

[Deader2818]

I always felt BLU should get some strong HNM TP moves, but only be able to use it as a 2hr. Like how Odin and Alexander are for blood pacts.

[Karbuncle]

Considering they're planning to add BLU spells from HNMs I don't think that's far from the truth. Maybe they'll have different drops but Blue Mages should have more options as usual. Something that doesn't involve waiting 24h to try again if possible.

While i don't deny it would make acquiring some easier (Also See: Nyzul Isle), Theres a good chance said HNM/NM Will not drop Said Abjurations.

Good good chance.

Edit: Also, You can only do your own MMM once per day so unless you mooch off people or leech runs from your friends its still 1 a day :\

I'm not saying im against the idea but I sit in a quiet realization SE loves how HNMs currently work and are too proud or stupid to change it .

[Gwynplaine]

This will be forgotten in 4 months and you will never convince your friends to help you do it.

[ringthree]

Eh Curry Buns are pretty nice imo, saves people from eating 3hr food just for a 30min event.

Not worthy of an update note let alone the last update note. And Couerl Subs.

[Karbuncle]

Not worthy of an update note let alone the last update note. And Couerl Subs.

Since when did they make Red Couerl Subs?

Edit: Should elaborate, i agree with you, however Yellow Curry Buns were at best the appetizer, Red Curry Buns were what made the whole "Curry bun update" worth it.

Should have been a snippit in the final notes and not a main FINAL Article though

[ringthree]

Since when did they make Red Couerl Subs?

So Red Curry Buns are worthy of the last update notes?

[Karbuncle]

So Red Curry Buns are worthy of the last update notes?

Read the Edit chief! Secondly, You mention Coeurl Subs as if Yellow Curry buns were the only thing added you should be ready for someone to tell you you're a tard and Red Curry Buns were the best thing to come from it.

[Fawkes]

After choosing your foe, the "relaxation period" will commence.

"Choosing your foe" makes it sound like the mob isn't just based on what runes you have.

[Alkar]

While i don't deny it would make acquiring some easier (Also See: Nyzul Isle), Theres a good chance said HNM/NM Will not drop Said Abjurations.

Good good chance.

Edit: Also, You can only do your own MMM once per day so unless you mooch off people or leech runs from your friends its still 1 a day :\

I'm not saying im against the idea but I sit in a quiet realization SE loves how HNMs currently work and are too proud or stupid to change it .

Yes MMM is restricted to once a day BUT you don't need anything to enter.
When you do Limbus or Nyzul you NEED key items to go in with the rest of the party but with MMM all you need is a party member able to enter that day. This makes MMM a much better candidate for spell learning if Fafnir and his buddies are added there.
In a full party you have 6 chances to learn it instead of maybe 1 (I say maybe because you don't always get Fafnir in Nyzul) and you can always get more people in.
It's also time to move on from Kings so those drops could go somewhere else.

[Karbuncle]

Yes MMM is restricted to once a day BUT you don't need anything to enter.
When you do Limbus or Nyzul you NEED key items to go in with the rest of the party but with MMM all you need is a party member able to enter that day. This makes MMM a much better candidate for spell learning if Fafnir and his buddies are added there.
In a full party you have 6 chances to learn it instead of maybe 1 (I say maybe because you don't always get Fafnir in Nyzul) and you can always get more people in.
It's also time to move on from Kings so those drops could go somewhere else.

Never said it wasn't time to move on from Kings, I infact agree its an archaic system that favors the underhanded.

But does SE? Not likely.

So is Instanced Fafnirs for everyone and their mom in the foreseeable future? I doubt it.

Im not at all saying i don't agree with A/B Points im just more the cold harsh truth, that is being... Its never going to happen.

And if by some miracle they add Fafnir/Kings to MMM they probably won't drop anything we want, or just some gimp ass new MMM abjurations or equipment.

[ronin sparthos]

Why do these systems always end up "Gee, I hope we get kings gear from these mobs" or something along those lines.

How about some level 80 gear, unique reskins (like some voucher 07 weapons) and some underused monster models? All of the HNM models outside DI/Sandworm have been overused to death.

The Flan is a good start and they could pick some other vastly underused mob types to fight against.

[Karbuncle]

That Flan appears inside Nyzul Isle as a boss but i know what you mean.

When i say im all for moving out of Aery it was more generally aimed toward "Bigger and better baddies" with new armor, not "FAFNIR IN MMM YAAAY EBODY"

I only mentioned the above as it was what i was responding to never happening.

[rahskala]

Solution: Kings gear from fish ranking

[urat]

Sounds more like a 6 man 15 min Einherjar style fight.

Zerg down one huge mob with shit tonnes of def/hp, more dmg = more points, kill = loot

Then you turn in your points every 10 or so runs for some more loot, and if you can kill the mob you can try to take on a second much tougher guy for even more points and loot

[Alkar]

Why do these systems always end up "Gee, I hope we get kings gear from these mobs" or something along those lines.

How about some level 80 gear, unique reskins (like some voucher 07 weapons) and some underused monster models? All of the HNM models outside DI/Sandworm have been overused to death.

The Flan is a good start and they could pick some other vastly underused mob types to fight against.

I never mentioned King gear. I'm more interested in learning BLU spells without having to rely on dumb luck in finding the mob or claim it.
If they wanna add spells from things like Fafnir they better add more options and not stick with Nyzul/DA/KSNM or wyrms with 3 days repops/Ouryu.
Right know you can get 18 Blue Mages and just kill whatever you want... can't really do that with HNMs that people actually camp or randomly pop in a dungeon BLU hardly gets to access.
I can already see people selling the chance to learn a spell to BLU, especially if it's a good one, if things don't change.